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- From: cmdq144@chpc.utexas.edu (Earl Edwin Rutenber)
- Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.231141.26308@chpc.utexas.edu>
- Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
- References: <1992Dec23.160233.8283@pbhye.PacBell.COM> <1992Dec23.200017.9865@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 23:11:41 GMT
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- At various times, Mike Vandeman (mjvande@pbhye.PacBell.COM) has written:
-
- They made their bed. Choose to live near work & transit, as I did, &
- you have no problem.
-
- and
-
- You have no other alternative? I don't believe that. Why don't you
- live near transit or your job?
-
- Mike,
-
- I live about 14 miles from my job. I do so for several reasons.
-
- (1) I hate living in the city. I have a little girl to raise who doesn't
- need to grow up in some urban slime pit. I like to grow things. I like
- to keep animals. I like to have wildlife in my back yard (even though
- that tends to be mutually exclusive with growing things). As to my
- environmental destructiveness, you should have seen my place when I moved
- into it - scorched earth! Some planting (natives, of course), some fertilizer
- (organic, of course) and a hell of a lot of hard work and _my_ corner of the
- environment looks a lot more like the original than it did before. Yeah, I
- bought my wife a really nice truck. Yeah,it burns more gas than I'd care to
- see. So what? I'd like to see what your fellow citizens do when you decide to
- bring half a ton of manure home with you on your rapid transit ride.
-
- (2) Where do you propose I live? What do you think lies between me and my
- place of employment? The forest primeval? _Other people_ live there. "Excuse
- me, sir. Would you mind blowing your brains out so I can take your domicile?
- It's closer to my place of employment than my current home."
-
- (3) Why should you place such limitations on what I can do for a living?
- "Hmm - I see you have a PhD. Good. 13 years experience? Good. Publications?
- Good. Ohh.. you're not willing to raise your family amidst crack houses, drive
- by shootings, carjackings, hookers on the streetcorners and junkies lying on
- the sidewalk in the middle of some concrete wasteland with pigeons, rats and
- roaches as the only wildlife? Well, I'm sorry sir, but you're disqualified from
- being a biochemist. Perhaps you can eke out a living chopping cedar."
-
- I realize this is a flame, but compared to the colliding egos found so
- frequently on this newsgroup I think it's pretty minor. If you want to change
- the usage of automobiles, perhaps you should seek ways to change the _need_
- for automobiles instead of attacking people who merely try to get by as best
- they can. When you lay rapid transit tracks from my house to my lab, to the
- feed store, to the grocery, to my church, to my kid's school and to my wife's
- office (they're not in the same direction) give me a call. Until then, I'll
- continue to drive my aging econobox and my wife will continue to drive her
- truck.
-
- Mike
-
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- | Dr. Michael P. Ready | READY@UTBC01.CM.UTEXAS.EDU |
- | Clayton Foundation Biochemical Institute | Phone: (512)471-3625 |
- | University of Texas | FAX: (512)471-8696 |
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