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- From: mjvande@pbhye.PacBell.COM (Mike Vandeman)
- Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
- Reply-To: mjvande@PacBell.COM (Mike Vandeman)
- Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:09:22 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.160922.8381@pbhye.PacBell.COM>
- References: <1992Dec21.041755.4485@pbhye.PacBell.COM> <1992Dec21.152006.23886@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> <1992Dec22.005642.16130@pbhye.PacBell.COM> <1992Dec22.201810.25999@Happy-Man.com>
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- ---: The answer is simple. We already know that the automobile and
- ---: its relatives and accoutrements (e.g. roads, CFC-containing air
- ---: conditioners, used tires, etc.) constitute the world's greatest
- ---: threat to our environment and quality of life. We also know that
- ---: the rich own and operate motor vehicles more than the poor.
- ---
- --- In the discussion of the gas tax, it was noted that it's
- ---not an equitable tax because the poor- and middle-class are more
- ---constrained to use their cars than the upper class.
- -
- --Not if you read the census reports. The poor have fewer cars
- --available, & use them less. Isn't that obvious?
- -
- -Not only is it un-obvious, it's untrue. There are many more poor
- -and middle class people than there are rich people, so despite a
- -lower per capita car ownership among the poor, the number of cars
- -owned and driven by poor people is larger than the number of cars
- -owned and driven by rich people. A tax on cars will take more
- -money from the poor, as a class, than from the rich, as a class,
- -even if the per capita cost is smaller for poor people.
-
- Nonsense. Read the Census. You obviously haven't. A greater
- proportion of rich drive than poor. It's obvious.
-
- -Also, note that poor people are more likely to own the sort of
- -old, inefficient cars likely to be targeted by environmentally-
- -motivated taxes, e.g. carbon tax, pollution tax, tire taxes, etc.
-
- So my solution is even better than I thought!
-
- -A similar fallacy is the idea of taxing the rich to balance the
- -budget. Even if you confiscated the entire income of every
- -person making over $1 million a year, the Federal budget would
- -not be balanced -- there just aren't enough rich people to make
- -up for the vast majority of middle-class and poor people.
-
- So I guess you would have to go lower. Of course!
-