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- From: rizzo@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (anthony.r.rizzo)
- Subject: Re: I don't want to keep looking for new jobs.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.020355.14737@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
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- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:03:55 GMT
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- In article <1hd86pINNigi@access.usask.ca> choy@skorpio.usask.ca (I am a terminator.) writes:
- >
- >Are labor costs too high here. Should we be happy with less? Or are
- >the people overseas too tolerant? What's it like to work overseas?
-
- "Too high" is a subjective description. Costs are higher here
- than in many other countries. People overseas have had much less
- for a long time. So, they are accustomed to much less. Their cost
- of living and their standard of living are lower. Therefore,
- the cost of hiring them is lower. Therefore, manufacturers
- hire them for manufacturing now. They'll hire them for engineering
- tomorrow.
-
- >|> The only way for you and me to maintain our standard of
- >|> living is to be able to do things that the overseas types can't do.
- >|> Maybe we can get an edge somehow.
- > [Rizzo]
- >
- >Engineers can improve themselves quickly if they have better access to
- >good information. Also a procedure for performing engineering work is
- >needed.
- >I go to the store and see crap on the shelves. The stuff that isn't
- >crap is too expensive. I'm accumulating a lot of stuff and it's hard to
- >convince me to buy one more thing unless it's really nice. It seems the
- >quality of goods must increase exponentially with time to attract buyers.
-
- Yes. Product quality is important. American manufacturers are
- finally realizing this. But, frankly, many firms haven't a clue
- as to how to DESIGN quality into a product. Many of them
- still use screening tests to select out defective product.
- This approach has been shown to be less than ideal, by the Japanese.
-
- >Engineering design quality likely should increase exponentially with
- >time. The infrastructure quality has to increase exponentially to permit
- >engineering work to increase. For example, I'm working on a clunky
- >Dec 5000/120 connected to a 10 Mbit/s Ethernet. The computer is 1 yr
- >old, and I want a Dec Alpha connected to fiber. With a 10 Gb hard drive
- >and a 30" screen. 100 Mb of RAM. I'm always taking things to the limits.
- >If the limits grow, I go faster. I work better. The world becomes a
- >better place.
-
- As your management sees it, the world becomes a more expensive
- place in which to do business. ;-(
-
- Tony Rizzo (att.com!hogpb!rizzo)
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