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- From: rizzo@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (anthony.r.rizzo)
- Subject: Re: I don't want to keep looking for new jobs.
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:25:07 GMT
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- >>If we engineers must expect to have many jobs rather than a few,
- >>then perhaps we should pursue education in breadth rather than in depth.
- >
- >Yah! A little of this, a little of that. It makes sense.
- >
- >When I co-oped at GE (and then worked before coming to grad school) I was a
- >Finite Element structural and processing analyst. (Wheee.) When the company
- >I worked for folded, I obviously searched for another job. Do you know that
- >the only position I was considered for, anywhere, was an analyst? Are you
- >surprised?
-
- I'm not surprised. Managers tend to stereotype engineers. For some reason,
- they think that all you're capable of doing is the LAST thing that you
- did. But that's a problem with management, not with the employee.
-
-
- >I know several very talented engineers who are locked into FEA. I know a
- >few, at GM especially, who've been doing the same COMPONENT for 5+ years!!
- >This is a phenomenal waste of a resources...that's why I went back to grad
- >school - in order to broaden my horizons.
-
- 5+ years? That's his own damn fault! I'd never let that happen to me.
- I'd quit first. In fact, I've come quite close to quitting, when
- the job and my own career interests didn't agree.
-
-
- >Interdisciplinary studies (I share my office w/ 2 other Mech E's a Civ E,
- >a Chem E (I think, I never see him), and an Architecture student are highly
- >effective in sparking ideas. The "cross-pollenization" that occurs is really
- >great!
-
- I couldn't agree more. Talking to others with a different point of view
- is a great way of sparking new ideas. I have some of my most creative
- moments in the lunchroom. ;-)
-
-
- >We need more company managers (like Ed Moore's HP bosses) who recognize that
- >a well-trained and CROSS-TRAINED staff is far more useful than a whole room
- >full of specialists.
-
-
- Oops! Can't quite buy this one. There is a need for specialists.
- Sure, I have an axe to grind here, because I'm considered a specialist.
- I do robust design studies with parametric FEA models. But I
- think that I can be objective.
-
- The recent trend to decentralize organizations has led to an
- unwillingness to support technical specialists. The problem is
- that when managers are forced to look no further than their own
- relatively small bottom lines, they become reluctant to keep
- specialists on staff. An engineer with a broad (but shallow) background
- becomes more attractive to managers than an engineer who has been
- doing one or two difficult activities very well for years. The specialist
- becomes an albatros, because his organization typically does not
- have enough need for his/her expertise. But it and other organizations
- do have that need from time to time.
-
- During the last six years that I've been doing parametric models, I've
- noticed that I (and the others in my group) have gotten only the
- difficult jobs. People tend to try the simpler tasks on their own.
- But they do come to us when their gonads are in the vice. This tells
- me that there is a place for specialists. What's lacking is the
- right organizational structure.
-
- We may not be around much longer, for the reasons that I've mentioned.
- But the willingness of companies to eliminate technical specialists
- from their payrolls can only cost them more, in the long term.
- It is also creating unsusual opportunities for those with the
- intestinal fortitude to become independent consultants.
-
- Tony Rizzo (att.com!hogpb!rizzo)
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