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- From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
- Subject: Re: Motor/Generator ???
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.181101.26580@ke4zv.uucp>
- Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
- Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
- References: <1992Dec23.092927.1@pa881a.inland.com>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:11:01 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec23.092927.1@pa881a.inland.com> schiewer@pa881a.inland.com (Don Schiewer) writes:
- >Can anyone say a few words about motor/generators.
-
- The motor turns the generator. Is that few enough words? :-)
-
- MG sets have been used for many purposes. The most common is to convert
- DC power into AC power, or AC power of one frequency to AC power of another
- frequency. Rarely are they used to convert AC to DC since rectifiers do that
- so much better. Solid state inverters have replaced most uses of MG sets in
- the last 15 years. The efficiency is higher, and there is no mechanical
- wear. Computer installations used to use MG sets to ride out short duration
- power loses, IE an early mechanical form of UPS. Usually these were DC->AC
- MG sets that ran off a bank of batteries that were on constant float charge
- from mains power. A few really big systems also had large flywheels to
- smooth out short duration power bumps.
-
- >Are generators more efficient that motor/generators?
-
- All generators have to be turned by some kind of engine, so they're
- all motor generators in that sense. When the engine is a prime mover
- rather than a secondary power source like an electric motor, energy
- is converted from chemical to electrical leaving a net increase in
- available electrical power. When the system is a MG, electrical energy
- is converted to electrical energy with some loss so that the net amount
- of available electricity is now less. So in that sense, you would say
- that MG sets are less efficient than generators turned by a prime mover.
- They operate at a loss while the others operate at a gain.
-
- >Would a good motor like those used in R/C cars and planes
- >be a good generator?
-
- No, the slip angles on the communtator are wrong. You'd get excess
- sparking. DC generators in general are fairly inefficient. That's
- why cars use alternators that generate 3 phase AC power that is then
- rectified to DC by solid state rectifiers.
-
- Gary
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