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- From: dpe@inel.gov (Don Palmrose)
- Subject: Re: Notch another one up for the Greennazis
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.150606.26351@inel.gov>
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- References: <51588@seismo.CSS.GOV: <1992Dec12.044341.16500@sugra.uucp> <51637@seismo.CSS.GOV> <1992Dec23.030636.6041@sugra.uucp>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 15:06:06 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec23.030636.6041@sugra.uucp>, ken@sugra.uucp (Kenneth Ng) writes:
- >
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- > I assumed the 0.5 nanogram value was a realistic value to kill a person. I
- > then figured out how frequent one would encounter such particles. Since the
- > number was rather frequent, I surmised either: we are all dead and don't
- > realize it, my modeling has some rather significant errors (and I am still
- > not ruling them out, and I encourage those really interested in doing the
- > math more accurately and post the numbers), or the original assumption is
- > incorrect. What I did not try to evaluate is the true lethality of
- > plutonium.
- >
- > :Pu is easily detected by its characteristic gamma energy -
- >
- > Plutonium is mostly an alpha and beta emitter. However, I do note in the
- > CRC, there is an entry on the far right hand side indicating gamma energy
- > intensity. The legend says something about annialiation with positrons,
- > but I'm not sure exactly what that is and when it is prevalent.
- >
- > --
- > Kenneth Ng
- > Please reply to ken@eies2.njit.edu for now.
- > Apple and AT&T lawsuits: Just say NO!
- >
- >
-
- Your assumption of 0.5 nanograms of Pu in killing someone is your mistake.
- I am looking at page 208 of the Radiolgical Health Handbook and it gives a
- maximum permissible concentration in air for a 168 hr week exposure of 1.0e-11
- microcuries per cubic centimeter. This could well be where the 0.5 nanograms
- comes from (I do not have time to go through the math but it is not difficult).
- HOWEVER, the maximum permissible concentration is a limit not to exceed **to
- guarantee no damage** and NOT a value that will guarantee death.
-
- I have not been able to find any value of either inhalation or ingestion of
- Pu that will guarantee death even within a certain period of time of several
- years.
-
- As for decaying, it will give off positrons. This will eventually make
- contact with an electron, annialating each other leaving behind two 0.511 MeV
- gamma rays. It is a well known characteristic of decay by positron emission.
- However, many other radionuclides decay by positron emission. Pu can give off
- regular gamma rays but the percentage of total number of decays is very small
- (less than 1.0e-2 %, yes %). So Pu could be determined by these gamma ray
- emissions, but it may take the counting equipment a long time to get enough
- data points for that determination.
-
- Hope this helps.
-
- Don Palmrose
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