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- From: steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson)
- Newsgroups: sci.energy
- Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
- Date: 22 Dec 92 16:45:16
- Organization: Lick Observatory/UCO
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- In-reply-to: stead@skadi.CSS.GOV's message of 22 Dec 92 23:11:38 GMT
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- In article <51699@seismo.CSS.GOV> stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead) writes:
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- In article <STEINLY.92Dec22144421@topaz.ucsc.edu>, steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes:
- > Now, I've asked this several times before, does anyone know
- > the claimed Q for these beasties? If they're are as good as
- > the best mesoscopic physical systems I know of they should discharge
- > significantly over a weekend - somewhat of a problem for a family
- > commuter car, puts a pretty steep overhead on keeping the tank full.
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- Awww, let's give that to them. Assume the magnetic suspension is done
- with very efficient room-temperature superconducting magnets, and that
- the vacuum is perfect. Then there are no losses. Any inaccuracies in that,
- and will treat it the same as the gas that manages to escape your tank over
- a weekend. Or maybe the leakage current in the batteries of a standard
- electric car? Anyway, the flywheel will probably lose more, but not so
- much to worry about if they design the vacuum and magntic suspension well
- enough.
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- Don't wanna! At 60,000 RPM quoted in one post, we have 10**3 revs/sec.
- there's 10**5 secs per day, so we want Q \gtorder 10**8 to avoid losing
- 10%++ of the energy per day. That's quite impressive even with a vacuum
- system and magnetic bearings when you figure they have to be
- mass-produced. Can anyone suggest systems with comparably low damping?
- (I seem to remember optical atomic transitions have Q \sim 10**8 !)
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