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- From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
- Newsgroups: sci.energy,sci.electronics
- Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
- Date: 22 Dec 1992 13:59:00 GMT
- Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
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- In article <51682@seismo.CSS.GOV> stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead) writes:
- >In article <1h4qbkINNnbi@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:
- >> In article <78150@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
- >> >Sounds like an interesting idea to me. Make one end of the flywheel a motor
- >> >driven by line current. Make the other end a generator that powers your
- >>
- >> This used to be fairly common in big mainframe installations. I worked at
- >> a Cyber site that had a flywheel about ten feet in diameter attached to
- >> the main motor-generator set. When the power went out, we had about twenty
- >> seconds of operation to save registers and copy all jobs out to disk.
- >
- >Real world flywheels, now this is more like it. Here, we got a 10 foot
- >stationary flywheel that can power a computer for 20 seconds. Probably
- >very safe, and possibly lower maintainance than the lead-acid batteries
- >currently in use for uninterruptibles.
-
- Yes, this is extremely dependable technology. 19th century technology in
- fact (although the casting and balancing of a steel flywheel that large
- is still pretty impressive). As far as I could tell, the system was zero
- maintainance, in fact... it got lubricated every year but not much more
- than that.
-
- >Given the design of that, how can these other people talk about little,
- >portable flywheels capable of powering a car 600 miles (10 hours!).
- >The car probably pulls at least as much juice, and they want to power it
- >1800 times as long with flywheels at least 10 times smaller (which means
- >at least 10,000 times the revolutions per second) than the practical, real
- >world flywheel described above. And I've heard about those 10 foot flywheels,
- >they're pretty safe, but every once in awhile one would fail, and they did
- >so quite spectacularly.
-
- That's not to say that it's not possible to perform this task, just that
- to do so requires a lot better technology than running a computer for
- twenty seconds. I don't believe that we currently have the technology to
- build a safe flywheel-powered automobile but that doesn't mean that it's
- not worth speculating on what manner of technology is required (and to
- attempt to work that technology out).
- --scott
- (who has an intense hatred of internal combustion engines this morning)
-