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- From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
- Newsgroups: sci.electronics
- Subject: Re: Basic bench equipment query
- Message-ID: <1992Dec27.030536.1024@cmkrnl.com>
- Date: 27 Dec 92 11:05:36 GMT
- References: <BzB8rD.BDp@hfglobe.intel.com> <2B3582F9.18867@news.service.uci.edu> <BzwHA7.6y@zoo.toronto.edu>
- Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA
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- In article <BzwHA7.6y@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
- writes:
- > In article <2B3582F9.18867@news.service.uci.edu> gkwan@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Greg Kwan) writes:
- >>1. Get the best DMM you can--it's the most important test instrument.
- >>I have a Fluke 77 and have been very happy with it, but would probably
- >>go for an 87 or 79 now. You'll probably use the freq. counter since
- >>it's a pain to fire up the scope just to measure a frequency...
- >
- > Note, though, that any frequency measurement using something other than
- > a scope relies heavily on assumptions about waveform. When I first got
- > my current scope, I hoked up a little audio-frequency square-wave generator
- > with a 555 as an independent test signal. I was a bit surprised to find
- > that my frequency counter read twice what the scope showed me.
- > [...] There is no substitute for seeing exactly what's happening.
-
- I'll second this, and LOUDLY, too.
-
- It appalls me to see frequency counters (and instruments like DMMs that include
- counters) that have no trigger level control, no input coupling selector (AC or
- DC), no edge selector (rising or falling). You wouldn't buy a triggered-sweep
- scope without such controls; of what possible use is a counter without them?
-
- I've seen many of these idiot-box counters (Star-Tek, Optronics, etc.) misread
- a pure sinewave at audio line level.... they may be good for "transmitter
- sniffing", where the input is at very low level, but I doubt they're good for
- much else.
-
- Anyone who trusts one of these counters without checking the waveform on a
- scope, if only to get in the right ballpark, is being as foolish as the person
- who thinks that a digital watch must be accurate simply because it isn't
- analog.
-
- > --
- > "God willing... we shall return." | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- > -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
-
- "God" was willing -- none of the relevant physical laws or principles of
- chemistry have changed that I know of, so the the hardware designed in the
- sixties ought to work just fine today. It was Senator Proxmire who wasn't
- willing.
-
- --- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
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