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- From: jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison)
- Subject: Re: RFI free dimmer switches...
- Message-ID: <1992Dec26.224500.19101@ee.ubc.ca>
- Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
- References: <1992Dec25.235206.6146@ee.ubc.ca> <72415@cup.portal.com> <1hhum3INNfau@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
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- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 22:45:00 GMT
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- In article <1hhum3INNfau@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher) writes:
- >I'm a little confused by the present discussion.
- >
- >If you only turn ON at the zero-crossing, you will, I suspect, avoid
- >RFI problems. But, first off, does this not give you problems in
- >modulating the output? You could only have setting that are multiples
- >of the number of {half} cycles. [I suppose that is not TOO limiting,
- >though, is it?]
-
- You would have to vary the duty cyle more discretely (only at zero crossings)
- but that still lets you turn the the triac on or off up 120 times per second
- (sin2pift = 0, t = n/120). You would get 0% to 100% duty in 0.83% steps
- >
- >Secondly, won't such a dimmer make the lamp singing problem far worse?
- >The filament gets heated, and cools, over a much longer period than
- >with chopper-type dimmers.
-
- Since the dimmers make the bulb ring even at 100%, (the triac should be
- on constantly), the harmonics must be coming from non-linearities in
- the triac (or diodes etc.). The bulb rings more at lower duty cycles.
- and it doesn't ring at ALL if the dimmer circuit is removed.
-
-
- >
- >I suppose the solution is to use line power of a frequency far above
- >the audio range. Back when I was taking a course on electronic power
- >control, I recall reading of scheme to provide large office buildings
- >with ~100khz to run the gas discharge lighting. The idea was to reduce
- >the losses in the ballasts. Not only does that increase the "light/kw$"
- >but it would also reduce the "waste heat/lumen" that has to be cooled
- >by the HVAC. Wonder what ever came of that idea....
-
- not gonna rewire my dining room!
- >--
- >A host is a host from coast to coast..wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu
- >& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
- >Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
- >is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
-
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