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- From: stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead)
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- Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
- Message-ID: <51695@seismo.CSS.GOV>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 16:22:34 GMT
- References: <1992Dec16.192456.6261@news.cs.brandeis.edu> <72182@cup.portal.com>
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- In article <72182@cup.portal.com>, Ted_Eugene_Viens@cup.portal.com writes:
- > flywheel, and the coils for electric power transfer. Unfortunately I have neve
- > r
- > obtained a CRC Physical Sciences reference book and I am a bit weak on various
- > heats of melting and vaporization. Some crude calculations showed that to go
- > 600 miles at 60 mph might take some 100 to 400 MegaJoules. Nothing to snitch at
-
- 400 is about right.
-
- > I agree. However this would be non-stop driving. which is contrary to the
- > intended use of these vehicles in stop and go city driving. What reduction
- > factor would be introduced by regenerative braking?
-
- negative reduction!! Or are you one of those free-energy fanatics who believe
- that you can get more energy out of a process than you put in?
-
- Come on!!!
-
- You put energy into the car to get it up to speed. Then you brake - any energy
- recovered would be less than or equal to the energy needed to get it back up to
- speed. We all know from entropy, however, that you won't get all the energy
- back from regenerative braking. Therefore, and note carefully:
-
- Stop and go driving will require MORE energy, not less.
-
- That's right - why do you think city mpg are less than highway? I mean, for
- city dirving, since the velocities are lower, you fight less air resistance -
- in you naive system, city driving would have better mpg.
-
- You want 600 miles of city driving, even with regenerative braking, be prepared
- for Gigajoule flywheels that will melt entire the entire vehicle and leave a
- hole in the street on failure.
-
- > Still, I return to my original opening remark. I have some faith in the engine
- > ers
- > responsible for designing Flywheel Batteries...
-
- Really? Hey, I got some prime Florida real estate to sell you.
- We could really make some bucks off this pup's "faith".
-
-
- --
- Richard Stead
- Center for Seismic Studies
- Arlington, VA
- stead@seismo.css.gov
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