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- From: pcollac@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Paul Collacchi)
- Newsgroups: sci.econ
- Subject: Re: Dumping
- Message-ID: <184702@pyramid.pyramid.com>
- Date: 23 Dec 92 18:27:58 GMT
- References: <1992Dec10.041044.3691@infonode.ingr.com> <57376@dime.cs.umass.edu> <1992Dec16.050512.25091@fx.com> <BzEr6J.Dy6@apollo.hp.com>
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- In article <BzEr6J.Dy6@apollo.hp.com> you write:
- |> In article <1992Dec16.050512.25091@fx.com> raphael@fx.com (Glen Raphael)
- writes:
- |>
- |> > We don't need the US to compete in every market, we just need
- |> > *somebody* to compete.
- |>
- |> We *do* need the US to compete if we want jobs, prosperity,
- |> and social stability in the US. You guys are still looking
- |> at all these things like they're single-variable problems!
- |>
- |>
- |> ---peter
-
- I think his point was a more narrow one than you are making. Everyone
- agrees that the US needs to be competitive to insure prosperity. Glen
- was simply pointing out that "competitive equilibrium" discourages
- dumping as a strategy, and that in a strong world market, the US
- doesn't necessarily need to be a part of every competitive equilibrium.
-
- It's a good point, I think, and one which pro-protectionist types too
- frequently miss. For example, there is much concern over this EC
- consortium to make airplanes. Everyone in the US is worried, you know.
- They're afraid that gov't intervention in Europe will put the US
- manufacturers out of business.
-
- They may be right, but if they do, it won't be such a bad thing.
- Why? Because we know that gov't intervention is no more efficient than
- private capital. If it's any less efficient at all -- and it probably
- will be -- then the entire EC economy becomes weakened by that
- inefficiency.
-
- We ought not respond by by becoming more inefficient ourselves. Such is
- the subtle contradition of protectionism!
-
- Instead, we should take it on the chin, and, know that the capital freed
- up from US airline manufacturers will eventually pursue some other endeavor
- *AND* with maximal efficiency. In that sense, our *whole economy* will
- continue to exhibit monotone non-decreasing levels of capital efficiency.
-
- Now the "jobs" problem. Let me give you the bad news. The purpose of
- Capital is to maximize return -- not necessarily to create jobs. In fact,
- Capital will seek to reduce labor costs (jobs) whenever possible. It's not
- in capital's best interest to create jobs. It's merely Capital's rhetoric.
-
- Get this: what's good for Capital and "competitiveness" is not
- necessarily what's good for America, for exactly the reasons you've
- pointed out; namely
- that Capital competitiveness may produce a concentration of resources which
- is antagonistic to "the general welfare."
-
- Therefore, we may choose to give up competitiveness in the name of creating
- jobs. And we can invite Jim to explain to us how his wunderzystem will
- produce prosperity for *all* and not just "some" or "most", including those,
- who out of freedom choose not to turn themselves into competitive machines.
-
- Paul Collacchi
-