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- From: Owen.Lewis@purplet.demon.co.uk (Owen Lewis)
- Path: sparky!uunet!pipex!demon!purplet!Owen.Lewis
- Subject: Re: [legality of PGP etc.
- Organization: FidoNet node 2:252/305 - The Purple Tentacle, Reading
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:34:00 +0000
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- -=> Quoting Steven Bellovin to All <=-
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- SB> Owen.Lewis@purplet.demon.co.uk (Owen Lewis) writes:
- > It is disingenuous to suppose that the *national only*
- > patenting was just an unfortunate happenstance. What about the
- > similar lack of international patenting of DES? Has any US
- > organisation ever chosen to seek worldwide patents on ANY
- > cryptographic product?
-
- SB> ...... If you want, I'll supply the U.S. patent numbers; someone with
- SB> access to the appropriate databases can check whether or not non-U.S.
- SB> patents were ever applied for.
-
- SB> As for your second question -- yes, I know of several instances where
- SB> non-U.S. patents on cryptographic devices have been applied for by
- SB> U.S. companies. One caveat -- NSA (well, the Department of Defense,
- SB> but NSA in reality) is empowered to file secrecy orders against
- SB> cryptographic patent applications, which would block foreign patent
- SB> applications from being filed. .......
-
- Many thanks for the informative and helpful reply. In fact, I believe the
- issue to be sterile. The paragraph was included in my original posting to
- elicit from a U.S. source information that, as a European, I felt it
- inappropriate to raise myself in a matter of primarily US concern. Namely,
- that what may be patented is, in fields affecting national security, often
- dictated by a govermnent agency in the interests of the State.
-
- Where the element of disclosure associated with a patent application
- is permitted, it seems reasonable to assume that one of the following would
- apply:
- a. The matter is already sufficiently compromised so that a
- patent application will not worsen the situation. If granted, the patent
- may even allow an element of control no longer possible by other and more
- thorough means. However, in particular circumstances, international patenting
- might not be possible or at least seem the greater of two evils.
- b. The matter is not considered sufficiently to affect
- national security and, consequently, a would be patentee may be left to
- pursue his commercial interest as best he sees fit.
-
- I don't wish to state the obvious by further elaboration. The corollaries
- to less than complete commercial or governmental protection of interests are
- - for any party and any nation - inevitable.
-
- Owen Lewis
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- .. Facts are stubborn little bastards, be careful with them.
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