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- From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
- Subject: Re: Are Lucas sequences an alternative to RSA?
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- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 00:15:12 GMT
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- In article <Bzzp1F.MEy@netnews.jhuapl.edu> jensen@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (Robert Jensen) writes:
- >The January 1993 Dr. Dobb's contains a description of the use of
- >Lucas sequences as an alternative to RSA for public key encryption.
- >I seem to recall a previous assertion in this group that the
- >Lucas sequence system is just a disquised RSA. I don't recall any
- >details of the assertion or any follow up discussion.
-
- I don't remember hearing such an assertion.
-
- >Does anyone have an opinion on this alternative?
-
- My opinion is divided; it looks like it's SLIGHTLY stronger than RSA,
- but not fundamentally so.
-
- >The advertised advantage is that the
- >encrypted product of two messages is not the product of the individually
- >encrypted messages. This beats at least one attack on RSA.
-
- It beats ONE attack on a naive implementation of an RSA message
- protocol.
-
- However, from what I can tell, only a stupid implementation would be
- particularly susceptible to such an attack.
-
- It's been said time and time again here that it's not JUST the
- encryption algorithm that's important; the WHOLE messaging system has
- got to be strong. And with even a half-hearted set of messaging
- protocols, the attack shouldn't be effective. All you need do is add
- some random salt (or an MD5 signature) to the message before
- re-encrypting, and the weakness is covered.
-
- The "problem" with the Lucas system, from what I can tell, is that
- it's not evident that it's FUNDAMENTALLY stronger than RSA. It still
- stands or falls based on the assumption that it is very difficult to
- factor the product of two enormous prime numbers.
-
- I would have been much more excited if LUC involved some OTHER
- hard-to-reverse operation rather than prime factoring.
-
- Supposing some prime-factoring algorithm comes out next week that
- kills RSA, LUC would become similarly useless. I don't foresee such
- an algorithm coming, but certainly it WOULD kill 'em both.
-
- I'd like to see other more fundamental advantages to LUC; there was a
- claim in the article that it might be faster than RSA, which would
- qualify. There might be other advantages that make it harder to
- break. I'd love to hear about it.
-
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