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- From: robert.heuman@rose.com (robert heuman)
- Subject: Exporting password p
- Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:26:20 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.052622.26282@rose.com>
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- Date Entered: 12-22-92 00:22
- bill@texan.rosemount.com (William Hawkins) said, in
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.065550.16784@rosevax.rosemount.com>
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- B > One kind of DOC license requires the recipient of the software
- B > to swear that the software will not be exported to anyone on
- B > the restricted list. You can imagine how much trouble it must
- B > be to keep up with the list. Think about it. The list is made
- B > for geographical boundaries. When is the last time that a piece
- B > of geography threatened you? Iran is on the forbidden list. Are
- B > there any citizens of Iran outside the geographical borders of
- B > that country? Do they have access to encryption techniques? I
- B > do not mean to pick on Iran, but only to show that the borders
- B > have nothing to do with access to information.
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- Even more interesting is the fact that the restricted list is NOT the
- same between COCOM countries, so that while the US forbids trade with
- CUBA, Canada does not, and what can be exported from the US legally to
- Canada can, under Canadian law be exported to Cuba even if it cannot
- be exported directly from the US. [That is why Cuban cigars are
- available in Toronto, but not NYC, and why flights to Havanna from
- Moscow stop at Gander to refuel.] Not only is it legal to export to
- Cuba, it is illegal to discriminate against Cuba or a Cuban simply on
- the basic of nationality. Assume that I import something from the US
- to my computer store in Toronto, under the rules re the US restricted
- list. How would I determine that the cash paying customer is from
- Cuba, and not allowed to buy the product based on US rules, when
- Canadian rules permit him to buy the product? We're back to reality.
- These rules are unenforcable unless ALL of the COCOM countries have an
- identical list, and they do not.... DOC can complain all they like
- over this one.
-
- Bob Heuman
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