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- From: bunner@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Dana A. Bunner)
- Newsgroups: sci.astro
- Subject: Re: binocular question
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.160250.4981@macc.wisc.edu>
- Date: 29 Dec 92 14:33:47 GMT
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- Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
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- In article <199228.4258.20565@dosgate>, "michael daly" <michael.daly@canrem.com> writes...
-
- >DA>Most people in their 20's and 30's have a
- >DA>maximum eye pupil size of 7mm.
-
- >You've got it backwards (most people do!). The seven millimeter exit
- >pupil guideline is not the minimum size you should look for, it's the
- >maximum.
-
- But I did say maximum.
-
- >DA> Since surface area is a ratio of
- >DA>squares, the size of the image will only illuminate about 20% of your
- >DA>pupil, wasting 80% of your night sight capability. 16x50's are
- >DA>designed as daytime glasses, when your eye contract to about 3 mm.
-
- >If you use an eyepiece exit pupil _larger_ than your eye's
- >pupil, some of the light will fall outside of your eye's pupil and will
- >be wasted. If you use an exit pupil smaller than the eye's pupil -
- >that's fine; _all_ of the light will be refracted by the eye's lens and
- >will illuminate the retina. You will _not_ lose any of the eye's night
- >vision capability.
-
- I believe we are having a difficulty in communicating. I am in total
- agreement that one should not purchase a binocular which has a larger
- exit pupil than your own eye's. Indeed that would result in wasting a
- portion of the image size.
-
- What I was trying to point out that if your eyes do indeed have 7mm
- dark light pupils, resulting in pupil surface area of 38.48 sq mm of
- surface area, and you illuminated them with a 3.125mm image, or 7.67
- sq mm, then you are using just 19.9% of your eye's pupil surface area.
- Of course none of the incoming image is being wasted. Your eyes would
- be capable of processing far more light than you are providing to them.
-
- >The image dimness alluded to with higher magnification is not due to the
- >small exit pupils - it's due to the fact that you're looking at a
- >smaller chunk of sky!
-
- Why then would a 16x80 provide a much brighter image than a 16x50? And
- given that both were designed to cover a 3.5 degree field.
-
- Or if a 10x50 was compared to a 16x50 Wide Angle with both covering a 5
- degree field, which would be perceived as brighter?
-
- And would a 25x80 provide approximately the same image brightness as
- a 16x50?
-
- I agree with your comments about not necessarily needing 7mm exit pupils.
- If someone had just 5.5mm pupils then the surface area of the pupil drops
- from 38.48 sq mm to just 23.76 sq mm. This would also be true if your
- primary viewing area is not dark. Light from nearby street lights might
- result in your pupils not expanding to their maximum size. At this point
- one has a dilemma. It's nice to have those 50mm objectives for light
- gathering, yet it is difficult to hold binoculars above 7X steady (for
- many people).
-
- Dana
-