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- From: goff@intruder.navo.navy.mil (Victoria Goff)
- Subject: Re: Cultural Appropriation and the New Age
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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:39:30 GMT
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- In article <C0338B.CFD@inews.Intel.COM>, mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas ) writes:
- |>
- |> --
- |> Let me say up front that I am a Christian (in the orthodox sense) and
- |> I am interested in the effect of the New Age on our culture, in
- |> addition to its spiritual impact on the world in general. I will leave
- |> my second interest aside for now: while I agree with Ms. Goff on
- |> some points, I'm afraid that her "cultural" analysis was definately
- |> affected by her frustration with the New Age movement and its effect
- |> on traditional values. These frustrations are experienced by many
- |> orthodox Christians, but would be better discussed (I think) in a
- |> different forum.
-
- Maria, I do not know what you mean by orthodox Christian. Either one
- believes Jesus or one doesn't. You asked for an opinion on the
- effects of the New Age movement on modern culture and my basic
- reply was that I thought it would accelerate the moral decline
- of an essentially Christian culture.
- |>
- |> On the other hand, this bold exploration into other cultures (of which
- |> religion is such an important part) has certainly helped us all be
- |> more sensitive to and aware of other ethnic groups. We could ALL
- |> stand to learn some respect for others, even if someone thinks they're
- |> absolutely wrong about one thing or another.
-
- You know, Jesus was so narrow and hardheaded, wasn't he Maria? He
- just didn't respect anybody's beliefs if they didn't line up with
- his. You would think he thought he was God...
-
- |>
- |> I believe that the New Age movement is the natural result of our
- |> cultural "melting pot." Our country was founded on Deism and
- |> Freemasonry, not Christianity per se. Deism (if I'm not mistaken)
-
- You are mistaken. The Constitution is based on biblical principles.
- We take for granted the impact Christian principles have given to
- society and are spoiled to it's precepts and ideals.
-
- |> is *similar* to New Age beliefs in that it encompasses all religions
- |> and strives to *extract* a universal deity (a *little* like the
- |> oversoul in Transcendentalism), a single spirit, as it were.
- |> Benjamin Franklin was a Deist and a Freemason, and so was Thomas
- |> Jefferson. (I studied Deism in one of my Early American Literature
- |> classes a few years ago, since it had such a profound effect on
- |> our founding fathers.)
-
- There is no doubt that they might have even been influenced by Shakespeare
- but the overall plan for this country (Constitution) bears the mark
- of a higher power.
-
- |>
- |> Well, that's my $.02. (And, yes, I've *studied* the Bible, and
-
- Ah, you might have *studied* the bible, but do you *live* it?
-
- |> if the New Testament is not taken out of context with the Old Testa-
- |> ment and the Jewish culture of Jesus' time, it's message is VERY
- |> clear. Hmmmmm...culture impacting religious beliefs? AMAZING!)
-
- You sure you're a Christian? You don't sound like you know Christ.
- Besides, all the real Christians I know hate religion as much as
- Christ does.
-
- -V.Goff "...always in trouble"
-
-
-
- |>
- |> M-
- |>
- |> --
- |> Maria E. Douglas (408) 765-4728
- |> Intel Corporation mdouglas@cadev6.intel.com
- |>
- |> "Mina! You're TOTALLY a vampiress!"
- |>
- |> Keanu Reeves as Jonathan Harker in "Dracula"
-
- --
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