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- From: bennett@adobe.com(Bennett Leeds)
- Subject: Re: Power Miter Box Safety Warning (plus flame warnings)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.191607.19644@adobe.com>
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- Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
- References: <1992Dec20.170001.9902@tc.fluke.COM>
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:16:07 GMT
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- Gary Benson writes
- > >Bill McGeehan (IRMTAQA2@SIVM.BITNET) wrote:
- > >: From: Bill McGeehan
- > >: This weekend, while using my Craftsman power miter box, I was
- > >: showered with a spray of metal. It seems that when I moved it to
- > >: the 45 degree angle I needed, the fence didn't move enough to clear
- > >: the blade. When I looked further, there was a chunk of wood that
- > >: had fallen through the table from the previous cut. This didn't
- > >
- > >: to get some opinions. Should a product be able to function this
- > >: way? It seems negligent in that the pointer showed I was locked in
- > >
- > >Ok, since you asked......
- > >
- > >QUIT WHINING!
-
- Not that Bill needs me to defend him, but I detected no whining in his
- original post. He had a minor accident with his tool and asked whether
- we thought it was Sears' fault or not.
-
-
- > No matter how hard any manufacturer tries to make his tools
- > >safe and/or fooproof, not all circumstances are forseeable. That chunk of
- > >wood that blocked the motion wasn't there when they shipped it.
-
- But is certainly is foreseeable that since the saw produces offcuts that are
- chunks of wood, that these chunks could get caught in the saw's mechanisms.
- As Bill stated, the feedback that the saw provided - the angle pointer -
- showed that all was ok.
-
-
- > It's your
- > >responsibility to see that you keep the mechanism of all your tools (all
- > >the moving equipment you posess) clean and in proper working order.
-
- It's the manufacturer's responsibility to design the tools so that they are
- safe to use under the conditions they are sold to be used within. I'd say
- that for a cutoff saw, that designing so that cutoffs don't get wedged in
- the tool is something to be expected of a manufacturer. Remember, according
- to Bill, the chunk of wood was below the table surface, not something
- you'd notice in normal operation.
-
-
- > >The nature of the environment in which this equipment is required to
- function
- > >is dirty, fraught with peril and therefore deserves extra attention.
-
- Therefore, extra attention is also deserved at the tool design stage.
-
-
- > >This is not meant to be a personal attack but in our sue happy society, I
- > >have had my fill of the general attitude of "protect me from myself". When
- > >it comes down to it, your the one with his finger on the trigger and no one
- > >can protect you but you.
-
- No one mentioned suing anybody until you spoke up.
-
- While I certainly don't defend the litigious nature of our society, let us
- remember that there is responsibility on both sides. Before these "protect
- me from myself" laws were enacted, how many babies died from choking on
- small pieces of toys? How many people died in cars that didn't come equipped
- with seatbelts? How many people died in Ford Pintos? How many Suzuki's
- rolled over and injured occupants?
-
-
- > In article <BzH8uB.9xG@fc.hp.com> scot@fc.hp.com (Scot Heath) writes:
- > My own message to Bill: no, Sears has no liability unless one of their
- > official spokespersons is standing beside you saying, ok, yup, go ahead and
- > do that, yes, that's fine, do that, yup, and so on.
-
- Luckily this is not true.
-
- Say it was true - and take a different case. Suppose a carbide tooth hadn't
- been welded onto the blade properly, and it flew off the first time you went
- to cut with the saw, and the piece hit you. Would Sears still have no
- liability since no "official spokesperson" was standing beside you? Of
- course not. Sears has a responsibility to ensure that their tools don't
- harm users who are operating them properly. That means supplying working
- blade guards, marking danger areas, ensuring quality control, and designing
- the tool so that under expected use it is not dangerous.
-
- - Bennett Leeds
- bennett@adobe.com
-