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- From: francis@ircam.fr (Joseph Francis)
- Subject: Re: Photo CD
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.165605.6886@ircam.fr>
- Organization: IRCAM, Paris (France)
- References: <342@metran.UUCP> <1gr4nmINNc1t@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <PD.92Dec20184108@horus.sics.se>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 16:56:05 GMT
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- In article <PD.92Dec20184108@horus.sics.se> pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson) writes:
- >In article <1gr4nmINNc1t@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> pharris@ucscm.ucsc.edu (Peter Harris) writes:
- >
- >>As to the question iwho needs it?b Well, for one
- >>thing itts the most stable archiving system Itve
- >>heard of.(except for the (in)famous Polaroid
- >>Carbon Pigment Print, whose estimated display
- >>life is over a millenium.)
- >
- >This has been discussed here previously, I think. What is the life
- >expectancy of a CD? Remember, CDs haven't been around for more than
- >about 10 years. A print will last a very long time. Perhaps a hundred
- >years or more.
- >Digital (mostly magnetic) media seems to go out of fashion very fast.
- >Have you tried to read a 7-channel tape lately? A punched tape?
- >Can we be certain that somebody a hundred years from now can read a
- >PhotoCD?
- >A print can certainly be viewed a hundred years from now.
-
- I think you overestimate the stability of photographic media.
- Metal-dye prints (most B&W, Cibachrome, Polaroid processes) will last
- indefinitely provided they are kept cool. They are, like anything
- which is 'physical' subject to things like being torn or scratched,
- irreprably. Organometalloid, or organic-dye prints (Virtually all
- 'instant-print' films, most kodak color processes) are, like many
- organic substances, subject to severe change with time and heat. The
- color stability of a color print is not something I would depend upon.
-
- Prints are also made on paper, or in some cases, polyester. Many B&W
- prints are made on polyester-based papers, with or w/o resin coating;
- Most color printing I think is done on ordinary papers. All the papers
- will be 'acid-balanced', or acid-free. However, this doesn't mean that
- the processing which was done with the paper didn't leave (1) acid
- residue, (2) fixer (3) bleach (4) etc. Any one of these can alter the
- base color and even physical properties of the paper. Baryite coated
- paper just looks terrible if your fixer is bad and it gets wet.
-
- Prints are mounted, often. If the medium they are mounted on isn't
- acid-free then you will have oxidation and color change of the paper.
-
- In many ways, the stability of photographic media are related to their
- cost - which is to say, the amount you spend for good preservation 'up
- front'. I think it would be safe to say that a Photo-CD is about as
- stable as the media (snapshots) which it is intended to replace.
-
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