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- From: ehr@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Ernest H. Robl)
- Subject: Re: Vienna
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.064922.11160@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
- Summary: suggestions
- Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
- References: <18919@mindlink.bc.ca> <1992Dec29.002625.13170@ads.com>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:49:22 GMT
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- Since there appears to be some new interest in Vienna, here's a
- slightly revised version of something I first posted about a year
- ago:
-
- Okay, let me give this a try. A couple of things come to mind.
-
- If you are willing to do some walking around Vienna, I assume
- you would also be willing to climb some stairs. If so, I suggest
- a climb to the observation room in the steeple of St. Stephan's
- Cathedral in the center of old Vienna. There is no elevator --
- just a narrow winding staircase. There is a moderate admission fee --
- I don't remember how much, and it's probably changed -- and a
- spectacular view. If you do this early in your visit, it may give
- you ideas for other things to look at in the downtown area.
-
- Access to the steeple is from the outside of the church -- at the
- very base of the steeple. If you face the front of the church from
- the large square in front, go to your right and keep going around
- until you find the entrance.
-
- Though I'm not particularly religious, the interior of the church
- is well worth a look, too -- particularly if you are already in the
- area.
-
-
- One of my favorite places to eat in Vienna is the Rathauskeller. Yes,
- it's a real Rathauskeller -- which in German means the basement of
- the city hall -- and is, logically enough, located in the basement of
- the city hall, a large gothic building on the Ring, which you can't
- miss if you're in the area. There are a couple of things worth
- noting about this. First, they are closed one day a week -- but off-
- hand, I don't remember which day (Monday?). And, they have a number
- of different dining halls. Though the food is from the same kitchen,
- the atmosphere in each is quite different. The room you want is
- called the Grinzinger Keller. When facing the front of the Rathaus,
- the entrance for the Rathauskeller is at the front at the far right
- of the building. Go down the staircase and ALL THE WAY TO THE END
- OF the long hall. Don't let them steer you into one of the other
- rooms.
-
- You will know you are in the right room when you see facing you
- what looks like a giant wine/beer barrel set into one wall. Don't
- go too early, at least not much before 7:30 p.m. They have music
- in that particular room, and I think that usually starts around
- that time. There's usually a quartet that plays an interesting
- mixture of traditional Austrian and modern popular music. The food,
- particularly the Wiener Schnitzel, is very good and not too expensive.
-
- I've eaten there many times over the years. Sometimes if you get
- just the right crowd, people not only make requests for particular
- music but sing along also. It can get quite lively. Needless to say,
- you don't need to dress up for this room. In some of the other
- rooms of the Rathauskeller, coat and tie are more the norm.
-
-
- To eat during the day, I would suggest the G"osser Keller. It's a
- fairly large restaurant owned by a major brewery. It's about a
- block from the Opera, one block off the Ring. I'll try to draw you
- an ascii map -- but if you're in the area, most anyone should be
- able to point you to it. That's also a good choice for the evening
- if the Rathauskeller is closed that evening.
-
- ---------------
- | Opera |
- ---------------
- ===========================================
- Ringstrasse
- ==========================================
- ---------------
- | office bldg.|
- ---------------
- ------------------------------------------
- Elizabethgasse
- -------------------------------------------
- ----------------
- | G"osser ^ |
- | Keller | | Entrance is on Elizabethg. about
- ---------------- where arrow is pointing.
-
-
- Downtown, you can also walk around the outside of the former Imperial
- Residence or take the subway out to the Sch"onbrunn area to see the
- former Summer Palace.
-
-
- One of my favorite areas near Vienna is the Semmering area, about
- 60 miles (106 km) south-west of Vienna. This was the site of the
- first major mountain railroad in Europe, and trains still follow
- the original route. It takes about an hour by train from Vienna's
- SOUTH station (S"udbahnhof). You can make either a half-day or
- full day outing out of this. It's a nice trip even if the weather
- isn't too great.
-
- Be sure to sit on the LEFT side of the train when you head out
- from Vienna, because that's where the best views will be. Go as
- far as the town of Semmering. (Make sure you get a train that
- stops at Semmering; some of the fast long-distance trains do not
- stop there.) It's a small mountain town where you can wander along
- some of the backroads. Semmering is the summit of the line, and
- the entrance to a long twin-bore tunnel. The station has a small
- coffee shop where, in addition to coffee you can also get hot (as
- in warm, not spicy) saussage and rolls and other simple food.
-
-
- Another nice one-day outing, a little more "cultural" in nature and
- in a different direction is to the town of Melk on the Danube. That's
- the site of a famous abbey. The old town is also quite interesting
- if you're willing to do some walking. Melk is also 85 km from
- Vienna on the WEST railway, on which you leave from the WEST Station
- (Westbahnhof), logically enough. Again, it takes about an hour to
- get there. You'll have to take local train, since many of the faster
- trains also don't stop in Melk. If you have any guidebooks, there
- should be information on Melk. It's been a while since I've been
- there, but I think I remember it taking a little less than half an
- hour to walk from the station to the monastery.
-
-
- If you do try any of the above suggestions, do let me know how they
- work out. I realize people's interests vary, but other people do
- ask me for advice on Austria from time to time, and I like to know
- how that advice works out. (I was born in Vienna and have made
- frequent trips back to Austria.)
-
- Have a good trip.
-
- -- Ernest
-
- P.S.: As others have already pointed out, Vienna has an excellent
- public transit system, with streetcars, buses, and subways. Do not
- try to drive in downtown Vienna if you can avoid it. If you are
- going to do much local travel, by all means get either a daily or
- weekly transit system ticket. The latter requires a small photo,
- so bring a couple of extra passport type photos along. These
- transit passes are also valid on local trains of the Austrian
- Railways within the Vienna area. Your hotel should be able to
- avise you where you can purchase these transit passes.
-
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