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- From: mgn@cup.portal.com (Mike G Newman)
- Newsgroups: rec.travel
- Subject: Laos via Thailand
- Message-ID: <72496@cup.portal.com>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 02:27:11 PST
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- I just got back from three weeks in Thailand and Laos. This is intended
- to be the latest on traveling to (but not in) Laos. My comments are
- based on information that is available in the first edition of Lonely
- Planet's "Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia" on the assumption that anyone
- interested in visiting Laos has already referred to that publication.
-
- It is now possible to get a visa for Laos without buying any sort of
- tour package. The price of the visa in Bangkok is $100. This is for a
- visa (plus a few extras) that would cost $12.00 (300 baht) at the Lao
- embassy. However, the Lao embassy will not issue visas to tourist and
- instead refers you to a travel agent. The suspicion is that there is a
- kickback scheme involving the Lao tourism agency, the Bangkok travel
- agents and Lao embassy personnel. You figure it out.
-
- Many travel agents in Bangkok advertise tours to Laos. Almost without
- exception, every one we consulted (including several recommended by
- Lonely Plant) responded with something like, "Can't you go to some other
- country? How about Vietnam?" Needles to say, this sort of response did
- not inspire confidence. Finally, we went to a tiny little travel agent
- located across the street from the Lao embassy (Sathorn Tai Road and Soi
- Saint Louis 3). They didn't speak much English, but the fact that they
- kept crossing the street with handfuls of passports indicated that they
- knew how to get visas. The name of the agent is Rimkhong Travel &
- Tours: 18/4 Soi Saint Louis 3, Sathorn Tai Road, Sathorn, Bangkok; tel
- (662)213-0881 They seem to be a sub-agent of M.K. Ways (57/11 Wireless
- Rod., Patumwan, Bangkok; tel 254-5583; fax 254-5583. Both of these are
- agents for Raja Tour in Vientiane.
-
- Rimkhong travel got us visas for Laos and train tickets (which every
- other agent said would be impossible) from Bangkok to Nong Khai. The
- price of the visa ($100.00) also included one night's hotel in Vientiane
- (at the Anou Hotel; $25.00 for a double), the services of a 'guide' upon
- entry to Laos to help you through immigration and customs, and transport
- from Thaduea (where the ferry from Nong Khai lands) to Vientiane.
-
- The visa took seven days. This is a problem, especially if you have
- already had as much Bangkok as you'll ever need. We spent some time
- Christmas shopping (Christmas is as alive in Bangkok as in any Western
- city) and ran the Hash. (If you travel and you don't know what the Hash
- is, find out.) Then we went down to Hua Hin for a few days. Not many
- Americans know about Hua Hin, but the Europeans have been going there
- for a few years. It is actually the first Thai seaside resort and is a
- real pleasure unless you insist on a Phuket-style resort.
-
- Note that over land/river entry into Laos is now permitted and is easy
- and fun. The overnight train from Bangkok is very nice. First class
- sleepers are $30.00 per person, each way. The food and service were
- both wonderful. There is a (cold) shower in the toilet. Sunrise in
- Isan was a visual pleasure. Morning coffee was Nescafe and was awful.
-
- Having a guide upon entry to Laos was helpful to us because we brought
- our mountain bikes. The customs official told us that this was the
- first time he had ever seen tourists try to bring bikes into Laos. We
- had 15 day visas, but he gave our bikes only 4 days. A 500 baht payment
- to Raja tour fixed that. However, upon leaving Laos, no one checked any
- of our customs declaration papers. (500 baht wasted?)
-
- Having sturdy bikes in Vientiane was wonderful. It is a great city to
- explore that way. We had two fantastic rides up and down the river.
- Definitely recommended, if you can manage moving them about.
-
- We never got out of Vientiane. All the flights were full due to
- political campaigning. Without our bikes we would have been
- disappointed and bored. With the bikes we made good use of every
- moment.
-
- Now is the time to go to Laos. It is slowly opening up and developing.
- Soon, the bridge over the Mekong will be done and the magic of the ferry
- across the river will be a thing of the past.
-
- If you go, don't miss our favorite little eating spot, 'Just For Fun'.
- It's run by a group of Thais who work for NGO's in Laos and who opened
- the restaurant, Just For Fun. It's just off the fountain and has the
- best brewed Lao coffee we could find. Maybe it will be open for
- breakfast by the time you read this.
-
- Please e-mail comments and questions.
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