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- From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
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- Subject: Re: Valkyrie recordings
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- Date: 30 Dec 92 22:41:28 GMT
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- In article <uR35VB1w165w@dorsai.com> shire@dorsai.com (Kenneth Shire) writes:
-
- >Jon, may I enter a dissenting vote. Having suffered through all of the
- >Vickers performances as Siegmund at the Met back in 1974 (?) when the Met
- >ran its pathetic Karajan-abandoned-and-Weber-finished Ring cyle, the man
- >was insufferably self-important both on-stage
-
- I didn't find him so in the 1972 Walkeure, which I saw. Nor the
- Parsifal at the Met in about 1977. Nor in the Grimes and Fidelio which
- I saw in Chicago later.
-
- >and in the interviews he
- >gave blowing his own horn
-
- Agreed. But so what? If we attend Wagner operas at all, we've learned
- to distinguish between people's artistic behavior and "offstage"
- behavior, right?
-
- Sure, Vickers, whenever he was allowed to talk about himself (or
- anything), was a pretentious jerk. But every performance I ever saw him
- give onstage (which, alas, was only the 4 I listed) was time-capsule
- stuff.
-
- >To my ears, Vickers
- >had a bleaty instrument of the James Macracken school of vocal technique.
-
- At his most extreme, he could get that way. (Look up Conrad L.
- Osborne's admiring-but-exasperated description of his voice and style in
- an early issue of OPUS.) But also capable of a pure kind of beauty
- beyond McCracken.
-
- >As long as the thread is on to great tenors, has anyone actually
- >seen-and-heard Reiner Goldberg in any Wagnerian roles? The rumor is that
- >he has a small but exquisite voice, though I haven't read anything about
- >his acting ability. All news on this gratefully accepted.
-
- I saw his "older" Siegfried at Bayreuth in 1988, the second cycle of the
- first year of the Kupfer/Barenboim production. Siegfried Jerusalem had
- surprised us all by his commanding presentation of the younger Siegfried
- two night before. Goldberg was just kind of blah. Not awful, and at
- moments he revealed some promising vocal material. But he really hadn't
- a clue what to do with his voice or any of the music. I would not agree
- with your description (second-hand, I realize) of him at all. His voice
- is not "small," though it may be deceptive because it isn't pushed in its
- production -- it has that same ease that makes Melchior sometimes sound
- like a lyric tenor to record listeners. It isn't "exquisite," though it
- may have been so at some earlier stage of his career if he was coached
- within an inch of his life. I really consider him almost an amateur --
- someone who was pushed into singing late in life because of an
- exceptional vocal gift, but who almost entirely lacks the professional
- skills of reliability, discipline, technique, and seriousness. I heard
- from members of the 1988 cast that he was enormously moving at the final
- dress rehearsal (which is almost a full performance), then fell apart
- for the first real performance and thereafter. He certainly is no actor
- at all. (Read Stephen Fay's THE RING for descriptions of how he drove
- Peter Hall and Georg Solti to distraction -- though they weren't
- blameless in the matter, having chosen him. They assigned someone
- fulltime just to teach him to walk without looking ludicrous.)
-
- Jon Alan Conrad
-