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- From: toman@bovine.uoregon.edu (J. Toman)
- Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
- Subject: Re: Finishing techniques
- Date: 30 Dec 1992 11:12:33 GMT
- Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
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- In article <1992Dec29.004930.13723@cbfsb.cb.att.com> osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X) writes:
- > What's this about the writs? Ugg... kote gaeshi is NOT a wrist
- > technique, but one for the forearm. What is practiced widely
- > these days is a corruption, and is easily escaped.
-
- Boy, lot's of flamage on this one. I'd have to agree with Andy, though
- the word 'corruption' is a bit strong for me. The problem with working
- kote gaeshi at the wrist is that it doesn't affect the uke's center.
- You can stand there and thrash on one wrist, but if they still have
- their balance they can attack with the other hand. Now, I can't do this,
- but I have seen one of our instructors do just exactly this. If he doesn't
- want to be thrown by this sort of kote gaeshi, he won't be thrown. Competent
- people have tried.
-
- Working it on the kote , which I was taught is about half of the forearm
- starting at the wrist, forces the affected elbow in towards the centerline,
- which causes all sorts of postural changes in ukes shoulders and spine
- and (you guessed it) strongly affects uke's center. The hand (and the wrist
- between the hand and kote) is just used as a crank, useful but not necessary.
- It's more difficult to counter this because it's draws more of uke's body
- into the technique.
-
- Only slightly related, the only other time I've seen a kote gaeshi similar
- to the one we practice was on a tape of Don Angier, who is/was (?) the
- head of Yanagi-ryu Aikijutsu. Every Hombu aikidoist I've seen does the
- wrist method.
-
- J. Toman
-