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- From: sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi)
- Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
- Subject: Re: Stupid Religious Views
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.195153.2593@craycos.com>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 19:51:53 GMT
- References: <1992Dec18.104506.803@hls.com> <1992Dec19.162717.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
- Organization: Cray Computer Corporation
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- In article <1992Dec19.162717.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> ttrimble@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
- >In article <1992Dec18.104506.803@hls.com>, silatman@hls.com writes:
- >>
- >>
- >> THE OLD MAN HAD TIMING!
- >> by Khalid Khan.
- >>
- >> Some people in today's society think that all talk about
- >> God and prayer should be kept for a time different than
- >
- >[lots o' bullshit and a cute story deleated]
- >
- >> Timing!
- >>
- >> The old man had timing.
- >>
- >> For power and speed you can work at it yourself.
- >> But for Timing you need Seeing. This is not just
- >> physical Seeing from the eyeballs, but a kind of
- >> Spiritual Seeing, which is infinitely faster.
- >>
- >> For this second kind of Seeing, you need
- >> the Grace of God. You need to pray to Him, because
- >> without that Seeing all your technique,
- >> all your power, all your speed adds to nothing.
- >>
- >> Salam Alaikum!
- >>
- >> Khalid Khan
- >>
- > seems funny that you should say that this 90 year old master has an
- >attribute that has something to do with YOUR narrow little religion! i would
- >tend to think that this 90 year old master is a BUDDHIST and has INTUITION
- >rather than some sort of "spiritual seeing". also seems funny that the KEY to
-
- Oh, dear....
-
- Unfortunately, one of the Japanese terms I've seen used for this "intuition"
- is "shin gan" == "spirit/mind/heart seeing".
-
- I do so hate to throw cold water on an entertaining flame war...
-
-
- >the martial arts should be a religious belief comming origionally from the
- >middle-east. i would immagine that the buddhist beliefs around which most
- >martial arts were developed would lend more aid in the understanding and
- >mastery of the arts.
-
- Which arts? Many Silat styles have a strong Muslim emphasis. Aikido and
- many kenjutsu systems have significant Shinto components. There are
- Buddhist, Taoist, and *MUSLIM* Chinese boxing systems. At the risk
- of making a *really* bad Japanese pun, Zen isn't everything.
-
-
- Hey...everyone just take a deep breath and relax. Khan, welcome back -
- I disagree with you most of the time, but I'd be the last to want to
- silence you. Just don't post any more "personal ads" here, ok? ;-)
-
- > perhaps i am biased. i seem to be unable to pray to HIM because i
- >burst into fits of laughter at the stupidity of HIS religion...
-
- Nothing narrow-minded there, nosirreee!
-
-
- Steve
-