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- From: osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X)
- Subject: Re: Re: bear hug variation
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.165541.15699@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
- Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com
- Organization: Twilight Zone
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:55:41 GMT
- Lines: 41
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- In article <1992Dec21.172851.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> ttrimble@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
- >In article <1992Dec21.201402.2852@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X) writes:
- >> In article <1992Dec19.175511.6289@desire.wright.edu> jchristian@desire.wright.edu writes:
- >
- >> Uh... exactly HOW is your head supposed to wind up in the floor
- >> when he has grabbed you whilst you were upright?
-
- > i don't want to presuppose a lack of experience on your part Andy, but as a
- >wrestler i would have to say that attacker is not SOL if he knows what he's
- >doing.
-
- He is if the defender knows what HE'S doing :)
-
- >a) to sweep your legs w/ one of his and drop
- >both of you (him on top) to the side he swept. this would not be countered
- >easily by a defender who is limp "like jello." (in my experience, this
- >would not be countered easily by a defender who's doing everything right and
- >who has 8+ years of practice getting out of this...)
-
- Going limp will make his task vastly more difficult to carry out.
- Can't quite explain it verbally. You have to experience it to
- see that it works. In the case where your attacker is essentially
- doing "sutemi" (sacrificing himself to get you) I agree it is best that
- you do not allow things to get to this point. Many such attacks RELY
- on the fact that the "victim" will resist physically. The body, when
- tensed up, is remarkably easy to manipulate. This is not so when it
- goes soft. The stronger Mr. wrestler feels, the weaker he is both
- tactically and strategically. The question becomes one of whether or
- not the defender knows how to take advantage of this.
-
- >b) to go into a back arch and drop you over his shoulder onto the back of your
- >head. (he would pivot himself to face down just as your head hit the ground)
- >again, being jello-like would not help a whole hell of a lot.
-
- If he has grabbed me that low, I can free my hands almost instantly.
- If he has not but tries to adjust the relative positions such that
- my head is sticking up over his, I am given a perfect opportunity
- to escape. If my hands are freed, I will remove his eyes from from
- their sockets in short order. Problem solved; now for his buddies :)
-
- -Andy V.
-