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- From: esot@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Eric Sotnak)
- Subject: Re: More ki/qi/chi & science
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- In <1992Dec21.145820.25353@srg.srg.af.mil> schan@birch.srg.af.mil (Stephen Chan x4485) writes:
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- > Scientists often conjecturing the existence of things which they have
- >never directly observed, then asking the government for billions and billions
- >of dollars to create instrumentation with which to _attempt_ to observe these
- >hypothetical particles.
- > What's the difference? All these quarks (or whatever) are unobserved,
- >purely theoretical and could very well only exist in the minds of the
- >scientists (subjective enough, huh?).
-
- But there are ways to manipulate physical systems in such ways as to
- produce observable effects which would be difficult to explain if such
- particles and entities were merely theoretical. I don't think the same is
- true of ki/chi/qi.
-
- > Besides, who ever actually *sees* things like mesons and neutrinos? All
- >that is ever seen is their effect on the environment as they break down, or
- >as they rip through a big vat of fluid.
- > One never actually *sees* qi, but one can observe it's effects. But in
- >this instance, that's just not good enough to justify further research.
-
- Are you sure one can observe the effects of ki/qi? What are these
- observable effects, and are they effects with such a character as to be
- difficult to explain without ontological commitment to ki/qi?
-
- As I've mentioned before, it is unlikely that research into the
- nature/existence of ki/qi will be funded until a clear articulation of some
- range of phenomena for which qi/ki is hypothesized to be responsible
- appears. In all probability there must be some means devised (a
- non-subjective means) for MEASURING/QUANTIFYING ki/qi in respect of rate of
- flow, or degree of intensity, or number of ki/qi "particles" (or whatever)
- per square millimeter, etc.
-
- None of this, moreover, requires one to be a dogmatic adherent of logical
- positivism or an idealized scientific methodology.
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