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- From: me@Sunburn.stanford.edu (Martin Frost)
- Subject: Passing Patterns: Both Hand Passing: 7 clubs PPS
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- Despite what Ed Carstens said about the difficulty of the patterns he
- proposed as solutions to the question of a 2P7C PPS pattern (two People,
- seven Clubs, pass-pass-self), I think there is a fairly easy solution.
-
- If you read the Spring 1991 Juggler's World, you will find the seven-club
- 3-count, which is almost exactly the same. All we do is turn one self
- of each person into a pass (hence PSS (3-count) becomes PPS).
-
-
- We're passing with both hands here, with two out of three releases being
- passes, for each juggler, and all the passes are doubles. One person
- throws only diagonal passes (R to R and L to L), and the other person
- throws only straight passes (R to L and L to R). Unlike Ed's patterns,
- this is completely symmetric, except for the difference between diagonal
- and straight passes.
-
- Numbers in parentheses below represent the event time in counts.
-
- The person with four clubs starts (count 1.0) by throwing (say from the R)
- to partner's hand that has TWO clubs (say to the L hand). The partner
- responds 1/2 count later (count 1.5) by doing a normal single self (from
- the hand that had two, naturally -- the L here).
-
- Then the first juggler (count 2.0) make the second pass (from L) to the
- partner's other hand (the R), and then the partner (count 2.5) makes a pass
- from the second hand (the R) to the first juggler's first passing hand (the
- R).
-
- The first juggler then (count 3.0) does a self (from R to L), and the
- partner (count 3.5) responds with a second pass (from L to L) 1/2 count
- later.
-
- Then repeat from count 1.0, reversing left and right.
-
- You can start without verbally deciding who will make diagonal and who
- straight throws. Whichever person has four clubs starts by throwing to the
- hand that has two clubs -- that first throw determines whether the starting
- person throws all diagonals or all straights. That first person proceeds
- later with a second pass and then the self. The partner responds to the
- initial pass with a self and then with a pass back to the starting hand and
- then with a pass to the other hand.
-
- As you can imagine, having turned PSS into PPS, you can now take one more
- step and turn PPS into PPP -- a 7-club 1-count.
-
-
- Turns out that the 7-club 3-count is relatively (that's the the key word)
- easy with doubles, but it is VERY fast and syncopated (fun!) with singles.
- I reckon 7-club PPS is quite reasonable with doubles and quite hairy with
- singles. Strangely enough, the 7-club 1-count rhythm is even with singles,
- though slower of course with doubles.
- --
- Martin Frost Computer Science Department, Computer Facilities
- Systems Programmer Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305-2140
- me@CS.Stanford.EDU (or mfrost@stanford.bitnet)
-