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- From: st1ns@elroy.uh.edu (Ault, Russell W.)
- Newsgroups: rec.humor
- Subject: Re: Credit Validation
- Date: 30 Dec 1992 19:42 CST
- Organization: University of Houston
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- (multiple attribs and many lines deleted)
- > <> This reminds me of a story told by a colleague of mine who was on an
- > <> airplane one day seated next to someone whose native language was not
- > <> American English.
- > <>-----
- > >Although true stories, passing around anecdotes like this "for a laugh"
- > >further enhance stereotyping of "foreigner"s as speaking "funny english".
- > >
- >
- > Well Naeem, I think it has to be pointed out that a lot of foreigners do
- > speak "funny english". I speak funny french. Should I be offended if someone
- > points out that my accent is about as appealling as nails on a chalk board?
- > No, of course not.
-
- >Steve, you raise a legitimate point. But, I am unable to take such things
- >as lightly. Do you get attacked for your different-ness? Of course not?
- >
- >In New Jersey, there is a gang of white skinheads who specifically formed
- >to attack Indians in the area. They call themselves the "Dotbusters"
- >(after the dot Indian women wear as ritualistic make-up on their foreheads).
- >The have killed Indians in the area.
-
- Naeem, you have a valid point, but the wrong audience. While it is perfectly
- true that there are intolerant and idiotic people here in the US who would
- willingly ridicule and abuse persons of other nationalities, this is neither
- the only country in which it happens, nor the average behavior here, nor the
- behavior of the persons who were making the original observation. Anything
- can become the focus of intolerant abuse, but those who choose to find amusement
- (as distinguished from finding an excuse for ridicule or atrocity) in the
- acknowledged unintentional utterances of others are also often the ones who
- are willing to offer an explanation and enlighten the one who was unaware.
- An unfamiliar language, whatever it may be, will often make even the most
- intelligent and well-educated person say the wrong thing...and if that person
- has a problem with the fact that others who do have a sense of humor may find
- such things to be funny, then he's be better off hiring an interpreter to
- avoid the embarrassment (or prewrite all of his speeches for him) or stick
- to the language he knows and the country in which it is spoken. Although I
- speak a very small amount of French (with a horrible American accent) I
- refuse to go to France because the reaction there (in Paris, at least) to
- any imperfection seems to be predictably hostile. But go to Mexico and
- try to speak Spanish, and you'll meet with about the same mix of reactions
- that you get here. A choice malaprop will get giggles or even guffaws,
- followed by a gentle explanation of the error, in the majority of cases.
- Only someone whose company no one would be likely to want does otherwise.
- I infer that your experiences here to date have included a disproportionate
- concentration of unpleasant encounters. I make no excuses for the behavior
- of those responsible, I will presume it to have been inexcusable on your
- assumed assurance. But I suspect that if this is the average reaction that
- you have been getting, then you are in an area with an atypically high
- ratio of persons who would do such things.
-
- But I, for one, will continue to keep my sense of humor, and the ability
- to laugh at the malaprops I create myself in other languages. I've done
- it more than once, and often the only clue that I had (and the only reason
- that I knew to ask what I *should* have said) was that it drew a chuckle...
- sadly, I don't seem to have enough of a talent for that sort of thing to be
- able to make a living at it.
-
-
- Enough, already! The subject hits the killfile after I edit this!
-
-
- ObJoke: Politically Correct Term Proposal.
- Politically Incorrect Term
- (Devalues the opinions of the so-labelled): "Politically Incorrect"
- Proposed Politically Correct Term:
- "Sensitively-Inclusive Terminology Impaired"
-
- (Recursively, then, the proposal OUGHT to be reworded, but then the
- people who need to consider it wouldn't get it, so they have to be
- politically incorrect to talk about being politically correct...)
-
-
-
- My wife went to Harvard and all I got was this lousy .sig!
- Russ Ault, aka st1ns@jetson.uh.edu
- (For the moment, anyway. I reserve the right to
- polymorph myself into something more formidable.)
-
-