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- From: naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen)
- Subject: Re: Credit Validation
- In-Reply-To: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca's message of Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:08:56 GMT
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:45:21 GMT
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- In article <C0192x.KyB@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
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- In article <NAEEM.92Dec29104546@occs.cs.oberlin.edu> naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen) writes:
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- >In article <1453700022@igc.apc.org> Skip Vogt <skip@igc.apc.org> writes:
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- <> This reminds me of a story told by a colleague of mine who was on an
- <> airplane one day seated next to someone whose native language was not
- <> American English.
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- >Although true stories, passing around anecdotes like this "for a laugh"
- >further enhance stereotyping of "foreigner"s as speaking "funny english".
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- >Naeem Mohaiemen
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- Well Naeem, I think it has to be pointed out that a lot of foreigners do
- speak "funny english". I speak funny french. Should I be offended if someone
- points out that my accent is about as appealling as nails on a chalk board?
- No, of course not.
- ----
- Steve, you raise a legitimate point. But, I am unable to take such things
- as lightly. Do you get attacked for your different-ness? Of course not?
- Indians/South Asian do get attacked in this country and elsewhere. That is
- why it is so mich harder for us to "chill out" and laigh at ourselves when
- the jokes are made about our difference. Certainly, i don't desire that we
- lose our accents and assimilate. But, our difference is used as a device
- to separate us by racist gangs in this country. This board has civilized,
- educated people who are really just having a laugh and not meaning anything
- by it. But out on the streets of urban cities, these jokes have a very
- different context.
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- In New Jersey, there is a gang of white skinheads who specifically formed
- to attack Indians in the area. They call themselves the "Dotbusters"
- (after the dot Indian women wear as ritualistic make-up on their foreheads).
- The have killed Indians in the area. One of their heroes is a band called
- Stormtroopers Of Destruction (SOD), because of a song called "Speak English
- or Die". Here is an excerpt:
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- "What is that dot on your forehead for?
- Does it help you to see?
- Speak English or die"
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-
- -naeem Mohaiemen
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