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- From: jacob@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jacob Jin)
- Newsgroups: rec.gambling
- Subject: Re: hold'em trivia
- Date: 25 Dec 1992 02:02:26 GMT
- Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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- In article <Bzs6Mt.AFp@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> jka@ece.cmu.edu (Jay Adams) writes:
- >
- >> If you want to make a straight in hold'em, what are the best two cards
- >> to start with? I was analyzing starting hands and this question came
- >> up because the numbers I was getting ran counter to my intuition. In
- >> fact, I was pretty sure I had found a bug.
- >>
- >> I thought that the best hand would be something like 87, giving you
- >> plenty of room in both directions to fill the straight. But 65 and T9
- >> are marginally better, and surprisingly, 54 and JT are better still.
- >> This last result is what astonished me. I had to work the combinatorics
- >> by hand before I believed it.
- >
- >Yep. The intuitive answer is that 87, 9T, and TJ (the same goes for
- >67, and 56) each have the same probability of completing a straight
- >involving the two hole cards. The only difference is the chance of
- >getting a straight that doesn't involve the hole cards--that's where
- >TJ (and 56) are better than the others. And, of course, with JQ you
- >reduce your chances of getting a straight that uses your hole cards.
- >
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- In Doyle Brunson's book, he points out that if you make a straight
- with JT, you WILL have the nut straight. There is no such thing
- as making the ugly end of the straight with JT.
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- Another sort of related question for rec.gamblers: If someone
- raises preflop under the gun(assuming this someone is a half
- solid player at least) and a lot of people call, I will often
- call with medium or small suited connectors. At least, I'll
- be more inclined to call with them than, say, KJ. Anyway. The
- question is, how do we all feel about playing 98 suited
- in such conditions? The reason I ask is because AK is the
- most likely preflopundergun pump hand. And a 10-J-Q on the
- board will get you in trouble. Are these factors important
- enough to take under consideration? Do we just take caution
- in this instance? Or do we still play fast and hope the
- person has a set, AQ, or overpair? Do we not play the
- hand at all, even if there are 5+ callers(not a rare
- event at the Oaks Club)?
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- So back to the original question. A lot of hands will
- make 4 different straights. And JT will make the nut
- straight every time. But no straight will put the table
- on tilt as quickly as one made with 4-8 offsuit. And
- tiltage is a very powerful weapon. Think about it.
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