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- From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
- Subject: Re: Liability (was Re: CDSS Group Directory)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.190036.4457@pony.Ingres.COM>
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- In article <1992Dec24.124546.28073@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, htr@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (helena.t.robinson) writes:
- >At least in New Jersey, dance groups that wish to use public schools for dances
- >must provide proof of at least $1 million (you read it right) worth of
- >insurance. Fortunately, back in the late 70s (not long after I started
- >dancing), the Northern NJ Square Dancers Association established a program for
- >member clubs that offered such coverage at (fairly) reasonable rates. There
- >was one year when the rates jumped mightily due to a woman who twisted her
- >ankle at a dance. (To add insult to injury, her husband - a non-dancer - urged
- >her to file a claim, and some sort of settlement was reached. Not fun for
- >those involved, especially since she was wearing improper footwear and nothing
- >could be done about it at the time. Sigh.)
-
- I don't want to sound overly cynical, and I'm sure this isn't universally
- true, but it's been my experience that, in many cases, it's the insurance
- that causes the lawsuit. It's the "deep pockets" thing: what's the
- point of suing someone -- a small dance club, say -- that doesn't have
- any money? What lawyer is going to take a case like that on a contingency
- basis? On the other hand, if they're insured for a million clams, well,
- hey, now maybe there's a good reason to sue; at least, you'll certainly
- hear that from a lot of lawyers who want a piece of the action.
-
- The California Morris community had an experience like this: a convention
- of Morris dancers (what we call an "ale", named after its most prominent
- and universal feature) was performing at a theme park -- name withheld
- because _I_ don't want to get sued -- and one of the dancers sprained an
- ankle badly, in the course of doing a very energetic leapfrog dance on
- an asphalt surface. (Morris dancers will know what I mean by "leapfrog
- dance", and others can probably imagine.) The dancer ended up suing
- the park, and they ended up making some sort of trouble or other for
- the umbrella organization that the local Morris team got its insurance
- through, and there was much legal brouhaha. I don't have all the gory
- details, but I'll just betcha none of this would ever have happened if
- the ankle had gotten sprained on a city street, or some other place that
- wasn't attached to a bucks-laden insurance company, terrified of negative
- publicity, and generally a sitting duck for ambulance-chasing Esquires.
-
- Of course, if your hall/church/rehearsal space/whatever requires
- insurance, then insurance you've gotta have. No argument there; there's
- nothing you can do about it. Of course, often the reason they require
- it is that their insurance company requires it. What a charming industry.
-
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