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- From: alley@argon.berkeley.edu (Rod Alley)
- Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
- Subject: Re: Which pack: Gregory or Mountainsmith?
- Date: 31 Dec 1992 00:14:31 GMT
- Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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- References: <C00CIs.Hp7@chinet.chi.il.us> <C036Hp.6Ko@world.std.com> <1992Dec30.212058.1142@ncar.ucar.edu>
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- In article <1992Dec30.212058.1142@ncar.ucar.edu> ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern) writes:
- >In article <C036Hp.6Ko@world.std.com>, ari@world.std.com (Ari I Halberstadt) writes:
- >> In article <C00CIs.Hp7@chinet.chi.il.us> eberg@chinet.chi.il.us (Erik Arthur Berg) writes:
- >> > I'm trying to decide which pack to buy; a Mountainsmith Elite 5000
- >> >or a Gregory Nova.
- >>
- >> A few months ago I was looking at packs. Many people said the
- >> Mountainsmith tended to fall apart. I've only heard good things about
- >> Gregory.
- >
- >Well, I have never heard that the Mountainsmith falls apart, and I
- >have one, and haven't had problems with it (although I just got it
- >in early November). It has lots of good features, a few more straps
- >and loops than I can think what to do with, and (the reason I got it)
- >infinite adjustability, allowing me to find a perfectly comfortable
- >arrangement. Honestly, it's the first pack I ever had that doesn't
- >hurt my back or shoulders one bit. I imagine, though, that once you
- >get into the stratospheric realm of prices (which both Mountainsmith
- >and Gregory inhabit) all packs are quite comfy.
- >
- I have a Mountainsmith Bugaboo (2350 cubic inch panel-loading pack)
- purchased in 1988. I too have been pleased with the features and adjust-
- ability, but a little disappointed at how it's held up. To be fair, I've
- had it for four years, 1.5 of which it saw frequent (most weekends) use as
- a dayhike/weekend/summit pack, and in the most recent 2.5 years it's
- been used almost daily as an (oversized) "book bag"/cycle commute pack
- while I've been going to grad school. During the latter period, it has
- sometimes held some impressive loads of books. I've had failure at
- several points at the seams in the harness, the pack proper, and the
- connecting points between them. It's mostly not the sewing that fails:
- instead the fabric pulls out of the seam because it wasn't cut with a
- hot knife to melt the fabric edges. I melted the exposed edges and
- sewed up things this past summer, but failure has since occurred in new
- places, and eventually (and with reluctance, because I've otherwise liked
- the Bugaboo) I'll have to get a new pack. I used the word "disappointed"
- previously because I'd thought hot-knifing was common practice, other-
- wise I'd acknowledge the failures were to be expected given the usage.
- I'd certainly suggest that if you're wanting a pack that will last,
- you look at details like this (hard to do, I know, when most fabric
- edges are hidden). This brings up two questions for the net:
-
- (1) how common is the use of a hot knife to melt cut fabric edges?
- (2) what pack manufacturers do or don't do this?
-
- Rod Alley
- alley@argon.berkeley.edu
-