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- From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro)
- Subject: Re: questions on new digital formats
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.204744.7518@adobe.com>
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- References: <28963@oasys.dt.navy.mil> <1992Dec24.184453.11969@dgbt.doc.ca> <BzwJ97.HKK@cs.columbia.edu>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:47:44 GMT
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- [I hope all attributions are correct. I'm working at 2400 baud which
- makes cross verification pretty painful.]
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- Here's what Audio Magazine (1/92, pp 42-46) has to say on the subject of
- analog recording on DCC decks:
-
- The DCC standard, as formulated by its co-developers, does not
- specifically exclude the possibility of some manufacturer
- offering a DCC recorder/player that will also be able to record
- analog cassettes. At the moment, however, it appears that all
- first-generation DCC recorders/players will offer digital record
- and play capability but only play capability for analog.
-
- On the other hand . . .
-
- In article <1992Dec25.060950.28828@news.columbia.edu>
- gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) writes:
- >At the recent New York City SPARS meeting, the presentation was by
- >BASF and was about DCC manufacture, and the word I heard that the
- >lack of record ability for analog is part of the Philips license
- >agreement. They obviously want to push the old analog cassettes
- >into the grave as fast as possible.
-
- This sounds pretty authoritative to me. It also sounds like Philips is
- pretty rabid about their DCC format, to it's detriment. I wonder if the
- truth is that Philips requires a HIGHER license fee for analog recording,
- one which no manufacturer is willing to pay. In any case, the lack of
- analog recording seems like a mistake to me.
-
- In article <28963@oasys.dt.navy.mil> curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt
- Welch) writes:
- >Don't the DCC decks uses the same heads for reading both type of
- >tapes? I was wondering if the reason they don't record is because
- >these new thin-film (or whatever they are) heads (which are designed
- >to read and write the 8 (or 10 or 11 or whatever) track DCC tapes
- >can't do a a very good job of recording in the ACC format.
-
- From the same article, either a single head that flips (uses one end
- for 2 track analog, the other for 9 track digital), or twin heads on
- one auto-reversing mount, can be used. Physically, the analog head
- elements are separate from the digital head elements. The digital head
- elements are much smaller, and are meant to write at 185 microns, read
- at 70 microns(!). Compare with 600 microns for standard analog tracks.
-
- >Why would anyone buy DCC? The decks are currently on sale for $999 at
- >my local Circuit City. For that much money, you can buy a DAT deck, A
- >CD player, a cassette deck, and a Sony walkman. Or, you could buy the
- >MD player/recorder and a $300 cassette deck. What does DCC give you
- >that you can't get with these other units for the same price?
- >Nothing.
-
- I agree that DCC doesn't make sense at the current price. It only
- makes sense if it gets down to below CD prices, and rapidly. I mean
- both devices and media here. It may never get down to ACC prices, and
- ACC may live forever as the bottom rung technology, for dictation and
- answering machines too. Everything I've read (excluding advertising
- hype) indicates that Philips understands this and intends to make DCC
- the low-end consumer digital recordable/portable medium. HOWEVER, when
- a new technology comes out, there are always people with deep pockets
- who are willing to pay ridiculous prices just to have the first unit on
- the block. The question is, how long will Philips try to milk this
- effect? With Sony breathing down its neck, I can't see this price
- lasting long. As noted in a previous post, the price of blank DCC and
- MD media have reached parity at $14 (DCC initially came out HIGHER!!)
-
- Truthfully, I had the same reaction to DCC that most people here had.
- The only thing I heard was that it was a digital tape format that, by
- making compromises, was backwards compatible with ACC. Bleah! How
- offensive to the technical purist's advance-or-die attitude!
-
- Then I remembered MS-DOS. DCC is to ACC as Windows is to MS-DOS.
- Backwards compatability sells, even at the cost of technical elegance.
- Advanced, incompatable technology, generally, does not. Indeed, there
- seems to be an inverse correlation to technical merit and market
- acceptance, witness DAT and the NeXT machine. :-)
-
- I grant, however, that Sony MiniDisc might just be the Apple of the
- audio world, and carve out a large enough piece of the pie to survive.
- MD has several technical advantages, which gains it the gee-whiz factor,
- but as I've said, technical merit has proved difficult to turn into
- market success, as Sony well knows (Beta). I still think Sony's
- marketing strength is MD's biggest asset in the battle.
-
- Against all this is the common sense guess that the recording industry
- will tolerate only *one* consumer recordable medium for new releases, as
- we have seen with the film industry. To my surprise, there seems to be
- just as much support for MD as there is for DCC at the moment, but I
- wonder how long that will last? Is this Beta all over again?
-
- Perry
-
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