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- From: CARVER@Polyester.CS.UMASS.EDU
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- Subject: Re: Please suggest Audio magazines!
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- Date: 29 Dec 92 19:52:11 GMT
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- In response to a question about audio magazines to subscribe
- to lgoodfie@sobeco.com (l.goodfield) writes:
-
- >For subscriptions to the Absolute Sound: 800-825-0061
- > Stereophile: 800-238-2626
- >
- >Personally, The Absolute Sound is the better of these 2 magazines, but
- >Stereophile does providfor decent reading.
- >
- >Lionel.
-
-
- Personally, I find Stereophile to be far superior to The Abso!ute Sound
- (note true name!). TAS has become increasingly annoying to me and I
- will not be renewing my subscription (which is ridiculously high anyway).
- I can no longer stand their haughty, snotty, etc. attitude: only they
- know the true (absolute) sound. So, every review/article has the
- obligatory comment about how awful CDs sound and every other review/article
- has a swipe at how stupid, deaf, misguided, boring, etc. the reviewers
- at Stereophile are. I find these rantings neither (wholly) correct nor
- in any way useful (to me).
-
- Another problem with TAS is that they are resolutely anti-measurements.
- As a result, you get reviews with statements like, "I don't know how low
- these speakers actually go, but they sound like they go pretty low."
- Very informed and informative! By contrast, Stereophile provides some
- measurements and has been engaged in their own search for correlations
- with listening judgements (particularly with speakers and CD).
- Of course, this is precisely the reason that "high-enders" like those at
- TAS don't like Stereophile anymore: they've "sold out" to the
- measurement forces (despite the fact that listening judgements are still
- the primary standard in Sterophile and the many Stereophile reviews that
- say something to the effect that "this may measure great but it sounds lousy").
-
- TAS also has many more blatantly false/ludicrous "technical" articles
- and explanations than Stereophile. You should read some of the
- explanations for why CD transports sound different in the latest issue!
- Stereophile has been investigating (at least potentially plausible)
- explanations like jitter, power supply interactions, impedance mismatches.
- Furthermore, I find the dogmatism of TAS publisher HP (who is never,
- ever contradicted by any of the staff writers...except Tony Cordesman...
- and he appears to be on the way out) that there is one and only one
- absolute sound to be absurd. You weren't there for the making of the
- recording, but you know that those players on those instruments in that
- hall on that day with those mics, etc., etc. must (or could not possibly)
- sound a certain way. Nonsense!
-
- I could go on...but to get to the bottom line....if you are someone who
- "wets his pants" over the "vast new horizons" opened up by the latest
- $4K moving coil phono cartridge then TAS is definitely for you. Note
- that Stereophile is also definitely a "high-end audio" magazine. If you
- don't hear differences between electronic components or if you don't
- care about what differences there might (or might not) be then
- Stereophile is not for you. No receivers! If you have found through
- personal experience that not all amps sound the same and that they don't
- sound like mass market receivers and are interested in finding out what
- high-end is about then I would suggest looking at Stereophile before TAS.
- Stereophile also has a section about new developments in audio and had
- articles about DCC and MD well before the mass market mags. It even
- mentions AES papers...sacrilege!
-
- As for the "mass market" audio magazines...Stereo Review is pretty much
- useful only if you want to see what the latest bells and whistles are on
- the new crop of receivers or CDs. Typically, everything meets its specs
- and sounds "fine" to Julian (since everything basically sounds perfect).
- [Actually, I take that back...he once reviewed the Acoustat electrostatic
- speakers that I own and found that his "multi-hundred watt" Carver
- reference amp couldn't drive them above background music level...though
- they sounded OK for background music. Funny, since mine can get pretty
- darn loud...maybe he should have broken them in and used an amp that had
- some current capability? Good job Julian.]
-
- Audio is pretty similar. It occasionally has technical articles that
- are of some value, but it is schizophrenic on the sound of components.
- While some of the reviewers make listening evaluations, the main
- reviewer, Len Feldman, rarely finds anything to criticize sound-wise.
- My favorite lack of consistency is that he nearly always says that a CD
- player sounds great just like every other CD player---i.e., all CD
- players sound the same. However, every couple of years or so he will
- compare a recent CD player to an older player and find that---to his
- utter amazement---the newer sounds better---e.g., the new one doesn't
- sound as harsh on CDs whose poor sound he had blamed on the CD rather
- than the player. Which is it? Do all CD players sound the same or not,
- and if they don't then do they only sound different after several years
- of changes or can different players of the same vintage, but with
- different size power supplies, etc. sound different? Can/does Len hear
- or care about subtle differences or only more gross differences??
-
- Finally, for the anti-high-end paranoid, there is the Audio Critic, in
- which every third sentence contains some reference to (always unidentified)
- "tweakos" who are said to believe things that are so bizarre that I have
- never seen them mentioned even in TAS!! Here again, everything---except
- speakers---sounds the same. Useful technical articles sometimes, but
- unwarranted conclusions are often drawn. If you HATE the high-end then
- this magazine is for you!
-
- (Note: there are many other non-US and even US audio magazines.)
-
-
- Of course, these are just my opinions....
-
- In any case, none of these magazines replaces personal experience.
- Contrary to what you often hear on rec.audio, most high-end audiophiles
- didn't learn what to think about the sound of audio compoents from
- reading TAS and/or Stereophile. We got into high-end audio through
- personal experience and only later picked up these magazines because
- their reviewers were hearing what we had been hearing---IN SPITE OF what
- we had been reading in the mass market mags.
-
- Norman Carver
- Computer Science Dept.
- University of Massachusetts
-