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- From: tonyb@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Tony Berke )
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- Subject: Re: JJ, be nice! (was re: CD SOund QUality, 16 bits, etc)
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- Date: 23 Dec 92 21:06:30 GMT
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- In-Reply-To: jj@alice.att.com's message of 23 Dec 92 03:25:11 GMT
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- JJ -- you're pretty hard on recording engineers that turn out CDs with
- clipping and/or underutilization of all 16 bits!!
-
- If these are DDD pressings, and especially if they contained material
- from live sessions, I have to emphathise with the engineer. 16 bits
- stinks, and not just for "poor engineers".
-
- If, by "poor engineer", you mean, "that poor engineer, he's got to
- contend with a choir and an audience that refuses to produce an
- accurate "0dB" reference level before the show starts", then I agree,
- 18 bits would be nice, and your use of the term "poor engineer" is
- appropriate.
-
- If, by "poor engineer", you mean, "Gee, that engineer is poor, he
- can't afford an Apogee A/D with builtin soft limiting", then I also
- agree, and an 18 (or 20!) bit recording system would be a boon,
- assuming it didn't cost more than the outboard A/D, that is.
-
- I do a lot of live recording, and I'm currently struggling with the
- philosophical (and financial) decision as to whether the ills of an
- extra analog component or three (IE, a VCA, some buffers, etc) in my
- signal chain is better or worse than the signal degradation caused by
- the 14-15 bit recordings that I often make. I know for sure that a 16
- bit recording made with the aid of a limiter can't possibly sound
- worse than the occasional 17 bit recording that I try to turn out!
-
- On the other hand, if you're talking about a studio session, or a
- session in which the engineer has had the chance to attend numerous
- rehearsals or performances in the same hall by the same artists with
- the same orchestration, or if you're talking about a transfer from an
- analog recording, yeah, anything less than normalization to 16 bits is
- the sign of a poor engineer (or a poor customer, that won't pay a good
- engineer to be patient!)
-
-
- Tony (waiting for an 18 bit DAT machine) Berke
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