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- From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
- Newsgroups: rec.audio
- Subject: Re: Recorded using B&W speakers
- Message-ID: <5759@gold.gvg.tek.com>
- Date: 23 Dec 92 17:46:36 GMT
- References: <1992Dec22.231924.12811@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> <1992Dec23.060351.14779@news.columbia.edu> <BzptF8.DD5@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
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- In article <BzptF8.DD5@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk
- (Jack Campin) writes:
- >gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) wrote:
- >> The advantage of using B&W speakers (or another fine brand) for monitoring
- >> is that you bring out all the flaws in your recording right then and there.
- >> Recordings monitored and judged through transducers of less-than-ideal
- >> quality often have flaws that are audible through high-end audiophile grade
- >> systems. Many feel that these problems can be avoided by monitoring on
- >> such a system in the first place.
-
- I _do_ have a problem using audiophile speakers for recording.
-
- While they _may_ be more revealing, etc, etc They _will_ impart *their*
- signature on the recording. While this may not be the problem with
- B&W speakers it is with others.
-
- I do a lot of live to two track (as does Gabe and others in this
- forum) and I monitor on headphones. I am also able to do a direct
- comparison of the headphones of the E-E recorded sound to the live
- sound. If I go like a bunny back to the home studio I can play the
- tape there and determine, within the ability to recognize the fact,
- that my monitorning system is reasonably neutral.
-
- I don't use audiophile grade speakers but I do know that there are
- audiophiles that listen to my release cassette albums and like them.
-
- I listened to a CD that a friend had loaned to me and the CD
- specifically noted that it had meen remastered using Snell
- speakers..... I did not like the result. The recording sounded dull
- in comparison to other CD's I have (used as a reference to eliminate
- any hearing loss that I may suffer......). Oh and the fact that the
- other CD's had better high end does not mean that ther had too much.
- While releases do differ slightly in the their spectral content the
- differences between releases and this one was large.
-
- >Somewhere I read that recording companies in the 60s took the exactly
- >opposite approach when mixing-down pop tracks: the last stage in the chain
- >was the sort of speaker you'd find in a cheap trannie on the beach. Since
- >that was where their product was aimed, that was what they balanced it for.
-
- A good mix will still sound like a good mix, even on cheep speakers.
- The problem is with the definition of 'good'
-
- The use of "consumer" speakers in the studio is for testing the mix as
- the customer might hear it. Just to be certain that is still is
- happening.
-
- I don't see any reason (and some studios do) not to use audiophile
- speakers for testing at that quality level, but I still don't agree
- that audiophile speakers should be used for tracking and mixing.
-
- The above comments reflect my personal and professional opinions.
- Please do not confuse that with your agenda!
- --
- Chris Christensen The opinions I express are my own,
- chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com and sometimes they are wrong!
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