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- From: DPierce@world.std.com (Richard D Pierce)
- Subject: Re: Port Frequencies
- Message-ID: <Bzp5qB.KnD@world.std.com>
- Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
- References: <19921222.131250.27@almaden.ibm.com> <Bzooz9.J1s@world.std.com> <1992Dec23.034027.10359@udel.edu>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:25:22 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec23.034027.10359@udel.edu> bower@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Ty Bower) writes:
- >Does the tuning frequency of the port/box depend solely on the three
- >parameters which Dick mentioned? (port length, port diameter,
- >enclosure volume)
-
- Essentially, yes. But more specifically, it depends upon enclosure volume
- and port acoustic mass. You can achieve this port mass through a wide
- continuum of port diameters and lengths.
-
- >Does the shape of the enclosure play any role? Is there a "best"
- >location to place the port?
-
- Over a reasonable range of proportions, the enclosure shape plays a very
- minor role if at all.
-
- The best location is the dependent upon many things. Probably closest to
- the woofer is best (enhances port-driver mutual coupling, which some feel
- may not be good). Also, any end should be at least 1 port diameter away
- from any obstructions.
-
- >Why do some speaker manufacturers choose to place the port on the
- >front of the box, and some choose the back? Does this affect the
- >sound?
-
- Because some people are smart, and others are stupid! The idiots who make
- bookshelf speakers with the ports in the rear must have their heads up
- their asses (BIC is one manufacturer who comes to mind in this respect).
- As soon as you shove that speaker up against the wall, you can rest
- assured your speaker ain't working anything like it was designed to!
-
- >Is it possible to substitute the conventional "throated" port
- >(i.e., a tube sticking into the box) with a simple tubeless
- >vent, or would it have to be of such a small diameter to make
- >up for it's lack of length that it would "whistle" as air passed
- >through it?
-
- Yes, but even an aperture in an infinitely thin enclosure wall has an
- appreciable acoustic mass, so that the diameter, while smaller, may not be
- so small as you are concerned about.
-
- >Am I asking too many questions? Should I just read a book on
- >the theory of Helmholz resonators? Where can I find this book?
- >What is it called? Or is the whole thing mostly voo-doo?
-
- No, don't read a book on Helmholtz resonators. It will tell you a lot
- about Helmholtz resonators (which a ported cabinet certainly is), but it
- won't tell you diddly-squat about loudspeakers.
-
- >If it's not voo-doo, why can't they _accurately_ calculate the
- >ideal length of a port for a given enclosure? I've been told
- >that the only way to do it is to make a port tube that is too
- >long, then start shaving it down until it "sounds (measures)
- >right."
-
- This is nonsense. The theories covering the operation of bass reflex
- systems is quite complete and agrees astoundingly well with the real
- world. The main reasons authors recommend the above is that most people at
- home do not have the facilities to accurately determine the actual
- operating parameters of the drivers, so they can only guess at what the
- actual enclosure parameters must be. Or they don't know what they are
- talking about.
-
- If you can measure your drivers Thiele-Small parameters accurately, then
- you can design your enclosure just as accurately. The people who are
- advocating the cut-and-try method are certainly well-intentioned, but
- after you get done perfectly tuning your enclosure in your damp, unheated
- workshop where the relative humidity might be 75% will find that all your
- careful tuning to the nth degree is gouing to fly right out the window
- when you carry your near-perfect speakers into your centrally heated house
- where the winter R.H. might be 10% and the paper cone in the woofer looses
- its moisture and the cone mass now drops 10% as a result (not uncommon)
- and the resonance goes up and the Qts goes down and so on.
-
- Yeah but you said it's all well understood, Dick! Yeah, it is well
- understood. I didn't say it was easy to control, though (actually, this
- particular problem is real easy to solve: don't buy drivers with cones that
- are hygroscopic!).
-
- But, no, there is absolutely no voodoo needed whatsoever. Just a good
- understanding of the principles involved is all. I've designed many
- enclosure for clients, and I pretty much get it right on the first shot,
- including adjusting for expected driver production variations.
-
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