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- Path: sparky!uunet!dtix!mimsy!afterlife!adm!smoke!matt
- From: matt@smoke.brl.mil (Matthew Rosenblatt)
- Newsgroups: misc.legal
- Subject: Re: Say it ain't so
- Summary: Why we have a criminal justice system.
- Keywords: "Take Back Our City"
- Message-ID: <19500@smoke.brl.mil>
- Date: 29 Dec 92 16:31:17 GMT
- References: <1992Dec18.003559.28805@bony1.bony.com> <1992Dec21.082019.28311@Princeton.EDU> <1992Dec28.234854.1666@bony1.bony.com>
- Organization: U.S. Army Ballistic Research Lab, APG MD.
- Lines: 76
-
- Here's a little exchange that explains so much of what is wrong
- with our criminal justice system:
-
- In article <1992Dec28.234854.1666@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com
- (Jake Livni) writes:
-
- >In article <1992Dec21.082019.28311@Princeton.EDU>
- >niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
-
- >>Yes. The Jews in New York aren't been treated by the authorities at
- >>all. You keep on seeing Lemrick Nelson's trial as a means for justice for
- >>Yankel Rosenbaum. It isn't. It's a means for justice for Lemrick Nelson.
- >>[David Marc Nieporent]
-
- >OK, so there is no justice for Yankel Rosenbaum. Why didn't you just
- >tell us this at the start? [Jake Livni]
-
- The criminal justice system is a function of government. The principal
- justification of government, as expressed in the American Declaration
- of Independence, is to "secure these rights"; i.e., the rights to "life,
- liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" with which we are endowed by our
- Creator.
-
- *It's too late* for government, either through the criminal justice
- system or otherwise, to secure any rights of Yankel Rosenbaum's. He
- is dead. Maybe he would still be alive if the New York City government
- had viewed the protection of ordinary citizens' freedom to go about
- their own harmless business -- like walking down city streets -- as
- more important than avoiding whatever violence against the violent
- it would have taken to quash the rioting as soon as it broke out.
- Maybe not: the police cannot be everywhere, and we would not want
- to live in a society where the police were everywhere. Either way,
- Yankel Rosenbaum's rights (may G-d avenge his blood!) are beyond
- protecting.
-
- Nevertheless, there is more to the criminal justice system than
- providing justice to the accused. That's a *necessary* condition,
- but it is far from sufficient. Since the police cannot be everywhere,
- and since there are always a few people whose own internal controls
- are insufficient to deter them from committing violent crime, it
- ought to be a primary purpose of the criminal justice system to
- instill such *terror* in would-be criminals that they will be as
- *afraid* to give in to their violent impulses, even when the police
- are not watching, as they normally are when the police are watching.
-
- Justice to the accused means abiding by the Constitution and the
- rules of evidence and of fair play. Sometimes this means that a man
- we think is guilty will go free, but that is the price of justice.
- On the other hand, once a man has been convicted by a jury of his
- peers, justice does *not* require that we refrain from *any means
- necessary* to (1) incapacitate him from committing further crimes,
- and (2) terrify his would-be imitators.
-
- If a government lets its solicitude for the well-being of criminals
- keep it from securing the rights of ordinary citizens to life, liberty,
- and the pursuit of happiness, such a government is failing at what the
- Declaration of Independence gives as the reason that "governments are
- instituted among men," and ought not be allowed to govern any longer.
-
- Fortunately, the government of New York City is not that of King George III.
- It can easily be altered without being abolished, without any bloodshed
- or Revolution. All that is needed is a "Take Our City Back" movement
- of good people committed to bringing about the demise of ENVY and
- RESENTMENT by demonstrating to the ENVIOUS and RESENTFUL that these
- sentiments will no longer pay because city government will no longer
- cater to them as it has been doing since the days of Mayor Robert F.
- Wagner. For forty years after the bloody Spanish Civil War, there
- was peace and quiet in Spain because it was clear to all that ENVY
- and RESENTMENT would not get one anywhere. It's time to do the same
- for New York City.
-
- -- Matt Rosenblatt
- (matt@amsaa.brl.mil)
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