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- From: matt@smoke.brl.mil (Matthew Rosenblatt)
- Newsgroups: misc.legal
- Subject: Re: Back Again To (Un)Fat
- Summary: See what catering to ENVY and RESENTMENT has brought us.
- Keywords: Two Legs Good, Three Legs Bad...
- Message-ID: <19498@smoke.brl.mil>
- Date: 24 Dec 92 17:11:22 GMT
- References: <1992Dec24.120246.2050@zooid.guild.org>
- Organization: U.S. Army Ballistic Research Lab, APG MD.
- Lines: 61
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- In article <1992Dec24.120246.2050@zooid.guild.org> goid@zooid.guild.org
- (Will Steeves) writes:
-
- >peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes...
-
- >MLP>It's not a dearth of procreation that's bugging this
- >MLP>group. It's a reluctance to pay for their progeny. [Michal Leah Peri]
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- >Please spare me this rather patronising treatment, Michal.
-
- >If *I* wanted to patronise *you*, I could have said THIS, a very long time
- >ago:
-
- >"it's not a dearth of procreation that's bugging the Pro-Choice people.
- >It's a reluctance to BEAR their progeny". (as though it's somehow your
- >RESPONSIBILITY to do so ; *that* is how I view your treatment of *us*)
- >[Will Steeves]
-
- Why, yes, that's it. That's precisely it. Reluctance to BEAR their
- progeny, when it is their RESPONSIBILITY to bear and nurture and
- sustain them, is what the Pro-Choice movement has always been about,
- going all the way back to the days of Margaret Sanger. The one person
- in the whole world whom the foetus should have the LEAST reason to
- fear is the one that the Pro-Choicers have arranged to be the one the
- foetus has the MOST reason to fear, because she can legally blot it
- out of existence with impunity. Expectant fathers have never had
- to go through pregnancy, labour, and delivery, and it is largely
- expectant mothers' ENVY and RESENTMENT of this fact that have brought
- about Pro-Choice:
-
- "Women hate remembering illegal abortions because they
- almost died, they could have died, they wanted to die,
- they hoped they would not die, they made promises to
- G-d begging him not to let them die, they were afraid
- of dying before, during, and after; they have never
- again been so afraid of death or so alone; they had
- never before been so afraid of death or so alone. And
- women hate remembering illegal abortions because their
- husbands experienced none of this: which no woman forgives."
- -- Andrea Dworkin, _Right-Wing Women_
- (New York: Perigee, 1983), p. 75f.
-
- That's feminism's prize thinker, dripping with ENVY and RESENTMENT.
- She probably never figured that assuaging expectant mothers' ENVY
- and RESENTMENT would have the side effect of arousing expectant
- fathers' ENVY and RESENTMENT, such as we see if we continue reading
- Mr. Steeves's posting:
-
- >And notice how you can squirm out of one of the above, but we CAN'T squirm
- >out of another, . . . [Will Steeves]
-
- Once society starts catering to some people's ENVY and RESENTMENT,
- there's no telling what ENVY and RESENTMENT will be stirred up in
- other people. That's why we shouldn't do it.
-
- -- Matt Rosenblatt
- (matt@amsaa.brl.mil)
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