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- From: elg@elgamy.jpunix.com (Eric Lee Green)
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- Date: 1 Jan 93 02:47:28 CDT
- Newsgroups: misc.kids
- Subject: Re: Protecting children in Public Schools
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- Organization: Eric's Amiga 2000 @ Home
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- From article <C03ILr.IFJ@SSD.intel.com>, by wang@ssd.intel.com (Wen-Lin Wang):
- > As a parent I am curious about the school/parent relation here in the US,
- > I wonder how much trust does the school system demand from the parents.
- > How much can a parent question/request the school regarding to the
- > curriculum, activities, policies without fearing that their children
- > may get ostracised by the teachers?
-
- I'm happy to listen to parent's concerns about the curriculum, activities,
- policies, etc. active in my classroom. I even make changes from time to
- time based upon parent feedback.
-
- On the other hand, I *HAVE* had a problem with a parent who refused to
- believe that his li'l darling did all the horrible terrible things that I
- had documented in my files. I suspect my problem would be the same with a
- parent who came to me and said that he was concerned because I used
- Shakespeare in my class... I would say "I respect your concerns, but I feel
- that I would be delinquent in my duty as a teacher if I did not introduce
- my students to classics of English literature. What solutions can you come
- up with besides banning Shakespeare from my class?"
-
- If, on the other hand, a parent handed me an obnoxious letter that
- basically said I needed to get parental permission to tell a child that
- fighting is bad, I would politely say to such parent, "I'm sorry, I do not
- feel that I can teach your child with this letter." I do not punish
- children for the sins of their fathers, so I wouldn't ostracize the child
- or anything of the sort. However, I would make it firmly known that I did
- not feel myself capable of providing a free and appropriate education given
- the constraints imposed by such a letter.
-
- How much info regarding those
- > mentioned will be provided to parents initially by the school? Are there
- > big differences between private school and public school in those areas?
-
- Public schools generally ship home a "code of student conduct" which lays
- out how discipline will be handed, and don't send home any "policy"
- information regarding other aspects of school (curriculum, etc.) unless
- explicitly questioned by a parent.
-
- Private schools differ. Some private schools are extremely flexible. Other
- private schools basically make a parent sign a contract that says, "This is
- what we're going to do with your child, if you don't cooperate or you're
- obnoxious to the teacher, you are out of here." Under no circumstance would
- a private school retain a child whose parent's attitudes were totally
- incompatible with the attitudes of the teacher and the school at large.
-
- > Are schools flexible on receiving suggestions from parents?
-
- Some are, some aren't.
-
- Is there
- > such parental union/support-group that can force school to listen/consider
- > other than the school boards? Or, is this generally regarded proper
- > attitude that parents should trust the school 98.75% and let their children
- > weather it all out on their own?
-
- There are advocacy groups willing to take on school boards. Said advocacy
- groups generally represent a special interest group. There are two special
- interest groups which especially influence school policy: the religious
- right, and the parents of special education students. Thus Texas biology
- textbooks no longer mention evolution at the 4th grade level, and special
- education is slathered with rules and regulations to the point where a
- "follow the rules" strike could be called (i.e., if those teachers followed
- the rules slavishly, no educating could be done).
-
- Most public school principals are VERY willing to listen to parents who are
- members of one of those two special interest groups. Getting sued is no
- fun. You'll find that they'll readily switch the kid to another classroom
- the moment you bring up the name of an advocacy group and the possibility
- of lawsuit. HOWEVER: if you go at it in a confrontational manner, you'll
- get their gander up, and you may actually have to go through the time and
- expense of a lawsuit. It's wise to stick to the facts. "I am unhappy. My
- child's teacher is teaching him beliefs that I do not agree with. I would
- like my child to be switched to another room." Then if the principal
- disagrees, contact an advocacy group and get advice specific for your
- school, school district, or state. Only then, at a second meeting, should
- the possibilities be laid out for the principal: appeal to school board,
- lawsuit in federal court, formal grievance procedures, or whatever.
-
- A word to the wise, though: if the teacher is teaching the state-mandated
- curriculum using state-adopted textbooks and it is those mandated things
- that you are objecting to, switching rooms won't do the trick, and
- complaining to the principal is futile (he doesn't have power over those).
- The school is following the strict letter of the law in such a case, and
- you would not have a legal leg to stand upon.
-
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