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- From: missy@ntmtv.UUCP (Missy Iaquinto)
- Subject: Circum.: When Parents Disagree :-(
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.212132.22722@ntmtv>
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- Reply-To: missy@ntmtv.UUCP (Missy Iaquinto)
- Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:21:32 GMT
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- I know alot of folks are getting tired of all the circumcision
- discussions, and hope they excercise their right to skip this
- article ;-).
-
- This discussion happens to be coming at a time when my husband
- and I are needing to make this decision, and I'm looking for
- some net.experience, or at least some net.advice.
-
- We have a 3 year old daughter. When I was pregnant with her,
- and we did not know her gender, we never really "agreed" on
- the issue, I was against, he was for. At that time, I had
- said once, and now regret saying, that he could make the
- final decision, but that I was against it. We never really
- discussed it further, but I'm sure that had Kayla been a boy,
- she would have been circumcised.
-
- During the last 3 years, I have become even MORE anti-routine-
- circumcision, and am due in 7 weeks, AND we know it's a boy.
-
- Since we found out the gender, my husband brought it up once,
- reminding me that, "so it's MY decision about circumcision, right?"
- and indicated that he's still pro-circum. (he is circumcised).
- To which I made some weak protest, making a mental note to make
- sure and bring this up again when "the time is right."
-
- Now, obviously, I don't want to discuss the pros and cons of
- the circumcision issue itself, most of us by now already know
- how we feel about it. Just to give a comparable example,
- when discussing a name for the baby, he mentioned that he
- recalled that the name we chose for our daughter was one that
- I had suggested, so it's only fair that he get to select the
- name for our son. Now, here are my thoughts. Yes, I was
- the one who came up with our daughter's name, but we BOTH
- liked it and we AGREED that that's what it would be. In fact,
- it was in the delivery room, when the nurse asked, "what's her
- name?" that HE replied with the name, before then we still had
- two names to choose from. Actually, when he said this about
- him being able choose the boy's name, he sorta mumbled that
- perhaps that wasn't all that great of reasoning, although he
- didn't really come out and say that. It's just that he
- REALLY likes the name he chose, and I know he REALLY wants it,
- and is trying to come up with any reason to give him the "edge."
- Incidentally, I'm not wild about the name he picked, but have
- not made an issue about that, I told him a name I liked when
- he asked, and it's still an unresolved issue. I know how
- much he likes and wants the name he picked, and am seriously
- considering it simply on those grounds, we just havn't officially
- decided yet. I bring up this name thing just to show a couple
- of things, #1 when he REALLY wants something, he comes up with
- any reason he can think of (even sometimes halfway admitting
- it's not a valid argument) to get what he wants (don't alot
- of us do that?), and #2 I am not unwilling to lean his way
- when we disagree.
-
- Now, the real issue and question. Although I do think a person's
- name is an important decision, I have to say I feel more strongly
- about circumcision, I REALLY DON'T want it done to my son. My
- husband REALLY WANTS it done. I REALLY WANT us to both feel
- comfortable with whatever decision is made. At this point, I sure
- don't see any compromise. Like I said, this has only come up once
- in passing so far, and I have a feeling he just thinks I'll go along
- with his wishes. But with this issue, I just don't feel comfortable
- "going along" with it. It's not something that can be "undone."
-
- My husband comes from a very traditional upbringing, and feels that
- he should make the final decisions when it comes to a son, simply because
- he's male. Three years ago I would have felt comfortable with that,
- since I'm NOT male, but now I don't feel like that's a good enough
- reason. I'm one of his parents, and I don't want it done. My husband
- is in the same boat, he's one of his parents, and he DOES want it done.
- So who wins? How do we decide fairly?
-
- There must be lots of parents out there who have disagreed on this subject
- and resolved it ... who wanted what, and what was the outcome? I find it
- particularly interesting that it's very typical for the mother to be
- against routine (male) circumcision, and the father to be for it, when
- there's a disagreement.
-
- Actually, I never really thought much of it at all until the last 5 years
- or so. My brother, who is now 29, was circumcised (father is also), and
- wishes he weren't. When I mentioned this to my husband during my first
- pregnancy, he was really surprised at that.
-
- I'm counting on you, misc.kidder's .... not to make the decision, but
- to give some helpful advice ... NOT to debate circumcision, but to
- relate experiences when the parents disagree strongly about it ...
-
- What to do?
-
- Missy Iaquinto
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