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- From: barb@sq.sq.com (Barbara Burrows)
- Subject: Christmas Tree Summary (Long)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.145803.6583@sq.sq.com>
- Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 14:58:03 GMT
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-
- I'm resending this.....I sent it yesterday....or I thought I did...but there
- seems to have been trouble with our system....I think....maybe...I sometimes
- have trouble with newfangled things like keyboards and vcr's and
- coffee makers (but that's another story - and these things DO SO know when
- it's me operating them!)..... so I'm sending again.
-
- Original Message:
-
- I can't believe the response I got from my plaintive posting concerning
- a toddler and the Christmas tree....and then continuing on to whine
- about how to handle everything...and the stress of it all. Thanks to
- everyone who responded. Aren't you all wonderful (especially the
- one who was so worried about me).
-
- I thought I would post a summary of SOME of the responses (names and
- identifiers have been changed to protect the helpful but shy).
-
- First, though.....here's what happened (so far!). We went out to
- slaughter a tree in the name of Christmas on Saturday. (We go to
- a tree farm - they plant 1,000 trees a year...on previously barren
- land....about 200 get cut down each year...and they've been doing this
- for almost thirty years and have quite the tree lot...hundreds of
- acres actually......just wanted to be politically apologetic for our
- barbarous actions.) The kids love it because we park the car and they
- take you out to the lot on a hay wagon....you roam up and down tons of
- rows of trees looking for THE perfect tree....everyone shouting "over here"..
- "come see this one". Finally after about an hour when we've selected
- and deselected THE tree....oh, not tall enough....not straight enough...
- too spindly on the bottom....too spindly on the top.....finally (I think
- fatigue and cold are factors here) we settle on one. Drag it back to
- the hay wagon which always manages somehow to find us so we don't have
- to drag it too far....although we should as penance. Then back to the
- starting place where the owners provide a camp fire and hot chocolate and
- general good feelings and then home.
-
- So, what do active 14 (almost 15) month olds think of this? Pretty nostalgic
- (already!) for me....he was in a snuggli on my chest this time last year.
- Well, he was verrrrry quiet on the hay ride.....loved....loved...loved....
- roaming through the trees calling out to each other....he did his fair share
- of "Wayadada!!" and other such indecipherable calls...very cute in his snow
- suit and boots waddling through the trees...falling in the snow ....he didn't
- seem to mind at all. He was very curious about bringing this large thing
- into the house....and watched while we decorated it (still needs tinsel
- though). What I decided to do was not to just say "NO!" when he approached
- the tree...but to go with him and say "Be careful, ouchy!" And so, he
- reached out to touch the lights and I said "Careful baby, ouchy!"....he
- looked at me....at the lights...touched anyway...and pulled his hand back
- quickly from the hot light. I repeated it..."Careful, ouchy!" nodding my
- head. He nodded his head. Then he reached for the tree...."Oh Oh, ouchy"
- says I. Sure enough, the needles pricked his finger. He looked at me
- nodding while I said "Ouchy". And that was that. Wait....this is too
- easy. Maybe, that reserve will wear off by Friday. Right now though he
- seems to be ignoring the tree. He did try to get an ornament but his hand
- hit the needles first....so, he seems to be content to ignore it. He's
- also ignoring the tree at his Grandmother's house. Sigh. Worry for
- nothing? But, I'm SOOOOOO good at it!
-
- Anyway, thanks for all the advice and good wishes. Here's the summary.
-
- =======================================================================
-
- I'm big on letting my son explore as much as he wants. How about
- starting with a live tree, with a big heavy base so it won't tip over.
- Then, only put lights on the top of the tree, out of his reach, and use
- the "little" christmas lights which don't get hot to be extra. Use only
- unbreakable ornaments, and put some fun ones on the low branches for
- your child to play with.
-
- ========================================================================
-
- 1. Buy a 4-foot artificial tree and put it on the top of a (sturdy) table.
-
- 2. Buy the regular full-size Christmas tree, securely anchor it to the wall or
- ceiling with fishing twine or some similar clear material, and put nothing on
- the lower branches that is breakable and/or extremely precious to you.
-
- As with all aspects of life after parenthood, you have to pick and choose
- what's most important to you. I think it's more important to give the kids a
- happy and safe Christmas than to satisfy relatives or coworkers, so that's
- where I put my emphasis.
-
- =======================================================================
-
- What we tried to do was to first make sure the tree wouldn't
- tip over, and second, to have ABSOLUTELY NO glass ornaments
- or lights on the tree when the kids were little.
-
- =======================================================================
-
- The idea of a fence is not out of line. I would skip the electricity.
- various methods we have used are:
- Get a small tree and put it on a table "out of reach"
- Put a baby fence around the tree
- Hover - doesn't work, that's why we added the fence.
-
-
- =======================================================================
-
- Anyway, my suggestion is to try a small tree, put on only things that are
- expendable (at least on the bottom half) and let your son enjoy the
- Christmas spirit.
-
- ======================================================================
-
- I had a 17 mo at this time last year - wish I had some of your husbands
- ideas! :-) We just made sure that the cords for the lites were at the
- back of the tree and mainly inaccessable to her, and that the tree was
- secure in the stand. Her main curiosity was for the ornamants - she loved
- taking them off the tree. We tried to put ornaments with strings, not
- metal hooks, on the bottom of the tree, so if she did get an ornament we
- didn't have to worry about her jabbing herself with the hook.
-
- =======================================================================
-
- Take a deep breath, make lots of lists and do a little at a time.
- Don't try to do everything at once and ask for help if you need it.
-
- Relax and put on one of your favorite Christmas Records!!
-
- =======================================================================
-
-
- The best thing we've done to restore some of the enjoyment of the season is
- to write off a lot of self-imposed obligations. Examples: we used to make
- candy -- truffles by the thousands, literaly -- as gifts for our adult
- friends and relatives. It took a whole weekend. Now we send gifts to the
- kids and ignore the adults. We used to make our own cards -- multicolor
- printing, the works. Now we buy 'em on sale *after* Christmas and send them
- when we feel like it. We used to throw parties as if we were trying to put
- Martha Stewart out of business. Now we sponge off other people :o) and have
- parties in January and February when everyone has cabin fever and wants a
- break. And so on.
-
- The rule of thumb is that if something makes *our* house prettier or *our*
- kids happier, it stays on the list. Relatives and friends fit in if there's
- room, and don't if there isn't. They still seem to like us.
-
- And, don't forget, when the UPS driver knocks on the door on December 29th,
- the package looks just as good to your remote relatives as it would on the
- 23rd :o) So if you put off shopping for a few people, the world won't end.
-
- One last tip: pretend (convince yourself and your husband) that Christmas has
- been moved to the 24th this year. Do all the last minute crazy desperate
- hair-pulling stuff accordingly. Then, when the evening of the 24th arrives,
- tuck your little bumper into bed and discover that there's nothing to do but
- relax.
-
- What works for us is along the lines of "These are meant to be enjoyed with
- your eyes. But if you *really* want to touch one, you can do it with *one*
- finger." Then we put wooden and cloth ornaments on the bottom of the tree,
- glass on the top. And I hang bells on the lower branches, so if there's a
- little unsupervised exploration taking place, we get a bit of a warning.
-
- ===========================================================================
-
- I have said since birth, that I cannot be a good wife, good parent
- and good employee all at the same time. At any given time, wife or
- employee suffers (never parent, that's *too* important). You need
- to expect less from yourself.
-
- Do what traditions have the most meaning for you, either "hire"
- someone to do the others (i.e. buy cookies) or give them up. Things
- do get better as the child gets older. By giving up some things, you
- get to develop new traditions. My favorite new tradition, which does
- answer your original question, let me tell you about kids and trees.
-
- Yours is a toddler, right? Toddlers are into bright, shiny and lights.
- Ooooh, weeeeeeeeeeeee and you want your kid to not touch it? Perish the
- thought. No way, Jose. It's not gonna happen without some creativity.
-
- Here's what we did. I have a "Victorian" tree, all glass and crystal
- and painstakingly collected ornaments. The year my son was 18 mos., my
- heart nearly stopped everytime he got near the tree.
-
- Soooooooooooo, I bought him a one-piece 3-foot tree. I got him a
- set of battery operated lights which my husband "taped" extra carefully
- and I made him cloth ornaments stuffed with polyester quilting batten.
-
- Now, the child can't be left alone with this type of thing, because it
- is possible to chew through the cord on the battery operated lights,
- although my son never even considered (as far as I know) putting the
- lights in his mouth.
-
- He loved that tree. He dragged it from room to room. He re-arranged his
- ornaments. He hungs some of his other toys from the branches (we used
- loops of ribbon for hanging, no metal hangers). I've added new ornaments
- every year and he's graduated to real, plug in lights, now.
-
- It's his tree. He's fiercely proud of it and every visitor must come to
- his room, first, and ooh and aah over his tree.
-
- So, see, I protected my tree, started a new tradition and gave my son
- a lotta holiday joy. Isn't creative parenting wonderful?
-
- ========================================================================
-
- This method (the play pen) works very well. It has been done before, here
- on the net, in my parents home, in friends' homes... (we don't have a playpen,
- my husband is against them (i don't know why!) but I would do it if we did).
- Mainly, don't go for the HUGE stuff. Go for the fun and easy stuff you and
- your immediate family (husband and kids) REALLY enjoy and want.
-
- =========================================================================
-
- 1) Let him touch certain ornaments only if Mom or Dad are right there and
- give permission. Let him help decorate. It satisfies some of the
- curiosity.
-
- 2) Be more persistant than he is. Make it clear to him that you don't want
- the tree touched. By 14 months old a child has learned that if he
- pretends not to understand, then Mom and Dad might not make him follow
- the rules. He understands plenty, believe me!!!
-
- 3) Put the tree in a little used (but not never used :-)) room. If the baby
- spends a lot of time in the den, put the tree in the living room.
-
- 4) Since he doesn't like the playpen anyway, use the playpen to block the
- entrance to the Christmas Tree room.
-
- =========================================================================
-
- I have to tell you my father's solution to your problem. When my sister was
- little, about 18 months, he cut down a christmas tree out in the woods. It
- looked great in the woods however, when he tried to put it in the tree stand
- it was seriously leaning. He kept cutting off the bottom, getting more
- frustrated by the moment, trying to make it stand straight until our six foot
- tree was about two foot tall. We put it on the room divider that year. It was
- well out of my sister's reach. I'll never forget that tree.
-
- ==========================================================================
-
- I'd believe it. *You* won't believe how many houses I've been in where
- they did the same thing. I have a friend with six kids and this is the
- first year in nine years they haven't had a toddler. When they tried to
- set up the tree without the playpen, the older kids all raised a fuss
- about how it was a TRADITION. I guess they'll be using the playpen
- forever.
-
- ==========================================================================
-
- I too was nervous about putting up our Christmas tree. However, he hasn't
- bothered it near as much as I expected. He has pulled the bows off many of the
- packages but he has only tried to remove ornaments from the tree a couple
- of times. Of course the tree is in a corner and surrounded by presents so
- he cannot get very close to it without climbing over the presents (which
- he tried once).
-
- He likes the tree and points to it constantly for us to identify it for
- him. I suggest that you try putting yours up, you may be worrying more
- than necessary about it as I was.
-
- ==========================================================================
-
- Well, I'm a little behind on reading net-news but with
- our toddlers, we did put the Christmas tree in the
- playpen! It worked great! I wasn't worried about the`
- ornaments as much as pulling the tree down. Anyway,
- the tree was in the playpen. Then I bought a christmas
- table cloth and draped it on the playpen to cover the netting.
- So it looked like the tree was sitting in a big christmas
- box. This allowed the kids to get right up to the tree and
- point but not to touch anything.
-
- =========================================================================
-
- Thanks again for all your suggestions about the tree and about how to get
- through the season. I'm even acting on some of the advice...this may not
- mean much to you but believe me it's something new.....not bad for an
- overachiever....be all....do all kind of person. And so, the kids (Barry's
- daughters 12, 17 and my sister, 14 who are all at my house right now) have
- done some of the vacuuming and dusting instead of playing Nintendo...and
- they seem to be happy to be getting into the spirit of things...preparing
- everything for Christmas. I didn't get to bake gingerbread cookies with
- them this year....BUT....I did make the dough before I went to bed last
- night....and they apparently had a great time doing them by themselves
- this year....I'll see how they turned out when I get home tonight.
- Christmas shopping will get done tomorrow at lunch and after work (they're
- babysitting for me) and Wednesday at lunch if necessary. And, my goal
- is to keep Christmas Eve for relaxing and family (about 14 people will
- be at my house....some staying over for Christmas morning and dinner).
-
- Thanks to everyone.....if anyone is still reading this far. I would like
- to say...without getting too Waltonish....that misc.kids seems like a
- present I've given myself all year.....you guys are great.
-
- Merry Christmas.....
- Happy Hannukkah (I never know how to spell it)
- and a Very Happy, Safe and Prosperous New Year to one and all....
-
- |
- | It's beginning to feel
- Barbara | a lot like Christmas...
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