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- From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
- Newsgroups: misc.kids
- Subject: Re: A question about older circumcision
- Date: 22 Dec 1992 06:16:37 GMT
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- In article <gdavis.724722711@griffin> gdavis@griffin.uvm.edu (Gary Davis) writes:
- > We do know that in the USA about 20% of men not circumcised will
- >for one reason or another have the procedure carried out.
- >Contrast this with less tha 1% in Finland where boys are NOT
- >routinely circumcised!
- >Clearly medical bias and social issues play a very significant
- >part in the difference.
-
- Well we can make some conjectures here. Presumably some fraction of that
- 20% is made up of cosmetic cases; that is, men and boys who have circumcision
- to please themselves, or to please a lover, or to conform to the peer group,
- or to conform to their fathers or some other admired individuals, or...
- In the rest of the cases there is some medical condition which the
- circumcision is intended to treat. For these cases:
- Perhaps in the U.S. where circumcision is common anyway doctors recommend
- circumcision without a second thought unless the patient protests vigorously.
- Whereas in countries where circumcision is rare perhaps doctors try
- all available alternative treatments before resorting to surgery that
- will make the person visibly different from the vast majority of his
- countrymen.
-
- Perhaps it's a matter of differences in the way medical care is financed.
- Maybe U.S. doctors advise circumcision because it is more profitable
- for them than alternative treatments; whereas doctors in other countries
- are paid the same regardless of what treatment they do.
- Contrariwise, maybe in the U.S. circumcision is less costly to the
- patient than alternative treatments that might take more of the
- doctor's time and have to be repeated from time to time. (Seems
- like someone posted from Europe that he had spent several days in
- a hospital being treated for some foreskin-related problem. If
- he had to pay for that out of his own pocket at U.S. hospital rates
- he might choose instead a circumcision performed in the doctor's
- office and no hospital stay.)
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