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- From: jm5p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Judi Mancuso)
- Newsgroups: misc.kids
- Subject: WRAP UP:"I don't want to be a scrooge"
- Message-ID: <gfBVV9W00iV4A31mMb@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 09:17:29 GMT
- Article-I.D.: andrew.gfBVV9W00iV4A31mMb
- Organization: Student Employment Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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- Hi.
- Many of you may recall my post of a few weeks ago regarding my MIL and
- her demands on our Xmas schedules and my husband's "hate" for the
- holiday season and our son's anticipation of our own traditions. The
- response from this group reached the triple digits--about 150 in all!
- Although I tried to get back to everyone personally, I am not sure if I
- did. And so, please forgive me if I missed a few of you--it was not due
- to lack of appreciation, I assure you. Most of you requested a follow
- up to this story and how it was resolved and I pormised to give you the
- facts and any advice I may have gotten that helped along the way. First
- of all, this group gave the best advice I have ever heard--perhaps
- because you do not know me and I do not know you and there is no
- emotional tie between us----although my friends were supportive and
- helpful in their own ways, let's face me--they love me, they know me and
- they want me to do what I want! Therefore, my first bit of advice to
- you is--sound out this group if you ever have a dilemna similiar to mine
- and you will find what you need.
-
- Here's what has happened and how the problem was resolved--I should
- mention that this was not the resolution I was hoping for but it is a
- good middle ground and gives us a place to begin building for next year.
- I explained to my SO how I felt about maintaining our own tradtions and
- doing what we want while respecting his "family" traditions. He also got
- a good earful on how I feel manipulated and bullied by his mother---I
- gave specific examples (which helped my case) and told him my perception
- of what was going on. At first, he just said that we should ignore
- everyone's wishes and just stay home alone or do what we want without
- consulting anyone--which would piss everyone off and probably upset our
- kids' holiday more than we realize. (Family tensions are felt by
- children--I remember when my mom was arguing with her sisters over the
- holidays---it was pretty weird.) Anyway, after some discusson on this
- topic we realized that I never asked him what HE wanted to do--and I was
- pretty suprised by his response. Because he works 1/2 day on Xmas Eve,
- he wants to be able to come home, hang out with the kids, put the baby
- down for a nap, send our oldest off to do something quiet and then he
- and I can enjoy a holiday drink together, quietly (maybe listen to
- music, watch the tree)---his rationale is that things are just TOOOOO
- hectic and he needs some "quiet and peace" in order not to "loose it"
- later on. Then, he wants to go to his mother's for an early dinner
- (maybe at 5:30) and enjoy HIS family instead of "hear about everyone's
- schedules" then open gifts and return home by 8:30 so that we can
- unwind, settle the baby and get ready for the wave that will hit the
- house at 10 p.m.(our annual Xmas Eve celebration). He says that the
- reason why he just hates this whole thing is that he wants to enjoy his
- holidays but he isn't "allowed" because everyone is "in his face" about
- what they want/need/have to do /where they have to be or whatever. He
- seems to blame his sister more than his mother because he says that his
- sister is constantly trying to schedule and manipulate things to fit her
- own needs then she forces her mother to tow the line. I am not quite
- sure if I buy into this but I will think about it later when my mind is
- less cluttered. Since he never really told me what HE wanted to
- do---and how he feels that if he has this "quiet" time instead of a
- constant whirlwind, he will be happier and enjoy the holidays instead of
- hate them--and I think his agenda is a nice comprimise, I told him to
- tell his mother. Although he wasn't prepared for that, he agreed and
- told her this when he went over to put up her tree on Saturday. When I
- questioned him afterwards, all he said was that she "accepted it" and
- that I should probably just leave it at that unless I wanted to have
- another argument. That sounded pretty reasonable to me. He said that I
- have to understand that since it took 60 some years to get her this way
- when it comes to the holidays, it may take a little longer than a month
- to change her---I suppose he is trying! Anyway, this is the end result
- of what was a very stressful couple of weeks.
-
- Again, thanks to all of you who gave me a good dose of what I needed.
- My friend sent me a wonderful Xmas card that read: FRONT: Christmas is
- such a special time of the year.....strangers greet each
- other.....friends call each other.....
- INSIDE: and families tolerate each other. On that note, I wish you all
- the merriest of holiday seasons! Thanks again. Judi
-