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- From: patter@dasher.cc.bellcore.com (patterson,george r)
- Subject: Re: energy saving rebates (was: FREE gas logs!)
- Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 05:59:02 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.055902.12564@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
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- In article <1992Dec21.142015.18734@esseye.si.com> jongsma@esseye.si.com writes:
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- >Personally, I think the logic is a bit shakey. I suspect that peak
- >demand is driven primarily by business/industrial customers, so all
- >this might help is with base demand.
-
- Not so. The main drains in business and industry tend to either stay on
- constantly (do you know what *your* mainframe's doing right now?), or they
- reduce the "peak load" effect. In rare cases, they eliminate it. Oak Ridge
- Tennessee doesn't have a peak load problem, for example. The residential
- load is light compared to the atomic labs, and the drain from the labs
- is steady. You also don't see rebates there.
-
- This *is* gradually changing as we move deeper into a service industrial
- mode, but the main loads still come on line from 6-9am and 5-8pm. It's
- likely to stay that way - businesses have proven more willing to spend
- capital dollars to conserve expenses later than individuals have. Look
- at the trend towards PCs that partially shut down when noone's typing.
-
- >Since all the modey for these programs comes right from the utility
- >bill revenue, all they are doing is giving you money you'll be paying
- >back to them every month.
-
- You got that right. Actually, though, if I buy this real efficient unit,
- won't somebody *else* be paying them most of that?
-
- >Many state PUCs are really into this, allowing the utility companies to
- >even make "profits" on this avoided new capacity. Bus Week or Forbes ran
- >an article on this a short while ago.
-
- Interesting. I can see why New Jersey might want to encourage this sort
- of thing - there's no place to put a new plant, unless it's gas or nuke.
- Actually, there was some talk a while back of building a combination
- incinerator/generator. Sort of killing two birds with one stone. If I
- remember correctly, they ran into too much "not in my backyard" syndrome.
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- George Patterson - | Society calls everything difficult good
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