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- From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
- Subject: Timor: Horta Interview
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- /** reg.easttimor: 356.0 **/
- ** Topic: Horta interviewed by 'Editor' **
- ** Written 8:18 pm Dec 23, 1992 by gn:tapol in cdp:reg.easttimor **
- Horta interviewed by Editor
-
- 12 December 1992
- The interview was conducted (presumably in New York) by Tatiek
- S. Hafidz.
-
- Q: What is your comment following the arrest of Xanana?
- A: The news of Xanana's arrest made me very sad indeed. As
- long as he is in the hands of the Indonesian authorities, they
- must be held responsible for everything that happens to him.
-
- Q: Isn't your struggle losing more and more support?
- A: Slowly but surely, I'm certain, we shall get more and
- more support. We shall appeal to people at all levels. We
- shall work by means of diplomacy, particularly in the USA, to
- change policies towards Indonesia.
-
- Q: You and Xanana have been accused of masterminding the
- Santa Cruz Incident.
- A: Oh, who do you think I am? That was an action by the
- people of East Timor. But I wouldn't completely deny the
- charge. Of course, I supported that action. But I have no
- money to provide financial support. Even for my own everyday
- needs, I sometimes experience problems. The salary I get for
- teaching at the University of New South Wales, Sydney is very
- modest. I'm not as rich as some people think.
-
- Q: But you receive many donations.
- A: Yes, that's true. But those funds are used for
- humanitarian purposes.
-
- Q: So how do you make contact or do your networking with
- East Timor?
- A: I admit it is becoming more and more difficult to make
- contact, especially now that some movements are being more
- rigorously controlled. We still have many ways of
- communicating. but you wouldn't expect me to discuss this with
- you. This would mean violating the first law of a guerilla
- ha... ha... ha....
-
- Q: How large are your forces in East Timor today?
- A: Our forces are indeed very weak. I will admit that.
-
- Q: So, will Fretilin abandon the armed struggle now that
- Xanana has been captured?
- A: No, we shall continue the struggle to the end, even if
- only a handful of people are left.
-
- Q: What's the point? Wouldn't it be better for you to
- surrender to the Indonesian government?
- A: We agreed to enter into negotiations. We would be very
- happy to sit at the negotiating table, to explore all
- possibilities for a peaceful solution. But don't forget, the
- important thing is that the people of East Timor have the
- right to determine their own fate.
-
- Q: It's the aspiration of the East Timorese to integrate
- with the Republic.
- A: Foreign Minister Alatas always says that the East
- Timorese people are happy to be integrated with their brethren
- in Indonesia and like eating fried rice - which I also like.
- But why does he refuse a referendum which he is bound to win?
-
- Q: Your struggle is of no significance. The evidence: in
- mid-December, Foreign Minister Ali Alatas of Indonesia and the
- Portuguese Foreign Minister will meet under UN auspices, but
- Fretilin will not take part.
- A: I don't understand Ali Alatas' way of thinking. He is
- usually open to constructive ideas. But this time, I truly
- fail to understand why it should be like this. If you want to
- discuss East Timor, people like myself, Belo and Xanana should
- be drawn in.
-
- Q: What in your opinion are the characteristics of Xanana?
- A: He is very intelligent. He is a leader of great stature
- and modesty. For me, he's a great leader, a leader for
- Southeast Asia.
-
- Q: But Xanana is disappointed with you because you have used
- the name of the party for personal interests. And recently,
- you've had a dispute with Mrs Xanana. Isn't that true?
- A: Yes, it's true. We had a disagreement over money. It was
- about how funds for the struggle should be used. She wanted
- the money to be sent to East Timor to support the struggle
- there. But I was of a different opinion, that the money should
- be used for the struggle at the international level. We
- finally reached agreement that the money should be used to
- finance the international diplomatic efforts of our movement.
- ** End of text from cdp:reg.easttimor **
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