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- From: jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
- Subject: Re: Fund raising at the FSF
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- Organization: Mount Holyoke College
- References: <1993Jan2.122330.18937@husc3.harvard.edu> <1993Jan2.201747.28886@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> <1993Jan2.215318.18942@husc3.harvard.edu>
- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:45:17 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan2.215318.18942@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
- >MZ:
- >>>When I want a new release of TeX, I have the
- >>>option of ftp'ing it from an Internet node, paying the AMS or somebody
- >>>else for the distribution medium, or asking someone to make me a copy.
- >
- >BB:
- >> You can do this for FSF software as well.
- >
- >I am not contesting that.
-
- Yes you are!
-
- >[...] In short, GNU is neither free
- >in the sense of being distributed at no cost, nor free in the sense of
- >being distributed without imposing an obligation of its recipient. No
- >more needs to be said.
-
- It /is/ free in the sense of being distributed at no cost---as you stated
- above, like TeX you an ftp it from a number of Internet nodes. Furthermore,
- anybody can redistribute GNU software (in its original form). Similarly,
- the AMS could redistribute TeX (if I understand the terms of TeX's copyright
- correctly) and charge a fee which they could use to (help) finance work on
- AMSTeX, for example. The FSF charges a fee if-and-only-if you ask /them/ to
- provide you with a copy on physical media. But since they simultaneously
- make all their software available at no cost via computer networks (and since
- the GNU archive is mirrored by archives which are accessible via all
- conceivable methods of computer networking this is not even restricted to
- the Internet) you simply can't claim that GNU software is not "free in the
- sense of being distributed at no cost."
-
- It also /is/ free "in the sense of being distributed without imposing an
- obligation of its /recipient/" (emphasis mine). The obligation imposed
- by the GNU public license applies only to those who wish to /redistribute/
- GNU software in some form or another. As a recipient I have *no* obligations
- to the FSF until I wish to redistribute GNU or GNU-derived software. To put
- it another way, if you read the GNU public license carefully, YOU DO NOT HAVE
- TO ACCEPT THE TERMS OF THE LICENSE TO USE THE SOFTWARE, only to redistribute
- it. I quote from the GNU Public License, version 2:
-
- Activities other than copying, distribution and modification
- are not covered by this License; they are outside its scope.
- The act of running the Program is not restricted [...]
-
- Since you're such a stickler for terms (the semantics of "free" apparently
- set you off on your tirade), at least get this right... the recipient has /no/
- obligations. Period.
-
- --
- Jurgen Botz, jbotz@mtholyoke.edu
- Northampton, MA, USA
-