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- From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
- Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
- Subject: Re: Fund raising at the FSF
- Message-ID: <1993Jan2.231845.18945@husc3.harvard.edu>
- Date: 3 Jan 93 04:18:44 GMT
- References: <9301021752.AA25483@life.ai.mit.edu>
- Organization: Harvard University Science Center
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- In article <9301021752.AA25483@life.ai.mit.edu>
- tower@ai.mit.edu (Leonard H. Tower Jr.) writes:
-
- >Date: 2 Jan 93 09:39:01 GMT
- >From: zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
-
- >>In article <9212300616.AA25845@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu>
- >>rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman) writes:
-
- RMS:
- >>If you'd like us to develop more software, I hope you will order some
- >>CDs or tapes and thus help us pay more programmers. 80 CDs, ordered
- >>at the company price, will support one programmer for a year.
-
- MZ:
- >Not counting the overhead costs, this amount would appear to be less
- >than half of the 1985 dollars you paid to your first employee. Not
- >only are you a damn good capitalist, but an efficient slave-driver,
- >too.
-
- LT:
- >As the first paid person rms had to work on GNU software, I like to
- >clarify a few facts:
- > - i was paid $30,000 for a year work by a third party, who
- >assigned me to work with rms on GNU software.
- > - 80 * $400 = $32,000.
- >
- >If you inflation adjust 32,000 1992 dollars to 30,000 1985 dollars,
- >Zeleny statement that present FSF employees are making less then half
- >what I was paid in 1985 is close, but the actual amount is a good bit
- >more then half.
-
- Hi, Len. I was there, remember? In any case, my point is that the
- important things in life, -- rent, booze, rides, tuition, books,
- smokes, theater tickets, and so on, -- have all gone up in price more
- than 100%. The only important items I can get cheaper these days are
- ex-commie goods, like black caviar and exotic women.
-
- LT:
- >FSF's employees are not slaves though. They are all working for FSF of
- >their own free will.
-
- Sure they do. And some slaves sold themselves into slavery of their
- own free will. Like I say, I have no idea whether the above figure
- includes overhead, as it ought to; but regardless of that, the implied
- maximum figure is way below par for professional work, particularly
- when Stallman's original penny-pinching rationale of "they have to
- show that they are doing it for the idea" no longer applies as FSF is
- looking more and more like a conventional software company.
-
- >-len
- >
-
- cordially,
- mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
- "Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
-