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- Path: sparky!uunet!clsi!kevin
- From: kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron)
- Subject: Re: ALERT! Anti-gun meeting in NoVA
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.160307.14188@clsi.COM>
- Originator: kevin@dubhe
- Sender: usenet@clsi.COM
- Reply-To: kevin@clsi.com
- Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
- References: <1992Dec24.164944.26190@clsi.COM> <63053@mimsy.umd.edu> <1992Dec26.200810.6222@clsi.COM> <63066@mimsy.umd.edu>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 16:03:07 GMT
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- In article <63066@mimsy.umd.edu>, purtilo@cs.umd.edu (Jim Purtilo) writes:
- > In article <1992Dec26.200810.6222@clsi.COM> kevin@clsi.com writes:
- > >You didn't answer the question.
- >
- > Look, Kev. We've iterated on this three times now, and each time you bleat
- > that the only path to crime prevention is gun control.
-
- I didn't say that either. The best prevention is not to create the criminals
- in the first place - but I'm sure you think that is too expensive.
-
- > Once again, with gusto:
- > if you lock up career criminals when they do crime --- whether or not armed ---
- > then you are preventing all sorts of crimes (not just ones of violence) that
- > would have been committed by this professional had he or she been allowed to
- > walk. Why don't YOU explain how taking this criminal off the streets is NOT
- > crime prevention?
-
- It only prevents repetition, it does not prevent the first offenece.
-
- > [And to answer your most immediate question above: isn't
- > it painfully clear that no matter what system we have that bad guys are free
- > until caught? That does not seem to be a terribly deep observation.]
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- Yes, they are free until caught in any system - but you want to guarantee that
- they can buy guns as well.
-
- > I'm starting to get the sense that you aren't terribly serious in this
- > discussion.
-
- I havn't noticed you actually discuss much - you don't answer questions, and you
- spout NRA dogma.
-
- > Is it your intent to distrupt discussion on dc.general, instead
- > of allowing participants to exchange facts, experiences and ideas -- and maybe
- > coming up with a constuctive idea or two?
-
- As if you would listen ?
-
- > Enough thoughtful people have tuned
- > out as it is. I still think we should take this elsewhere
-
- dc.talk.guns
-
- > My point is simply that we should on crime control. Blather about gun control
- > only serves to distract from the problems we should all face squarely together.
- > If it is truly your intent to prevent crime, then finding brand new ways to go
- > after people who are already obeying the law -- and requiring yet more resources
- > to police new laws that combat a statistically minor part of the overall crime
- > problem -- does not serve us.
-
- A question on prevention Jim:
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- Do you use condoms, or do you support abortion ?
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- Kev.
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