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- Path: sparky!uunet!clsi!kevin
- From: kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron)
- Subject: Re: ALERT! Anti-gun meeting in NoVA
- Message-ID: <1992Dec26.200810.6222@clsi.COM>
- Originator: kevin@dubhe
- Sender: usenet@clsi.COM
- Reply-To: kevin@clsi.com
- Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
- References: <1992Dec23.152242.13475@clsi.COM> <63037@mimsy.umd.edu> <1992Dec24.164944.26190@clsi.COM> <63053@mimsy.umd.edu>
- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 20:08:10 GMT
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- In article <63053@mimsy.umd.edu>, purtilo@cs.umd.edu (Jim Purtilo) writes:
- > In article <1992Dec24.164944.26190@clsi.COM> kevin@clsi.com writes:
- > >>
- > >> Stopping the crimes by people who demonstrate a willingness
- > >> to do violence, instead of releasing them to Kev so they are free to commit
- > >> all the crimes they can get away with, is "not prevention"???
- > >
- > >Want to define "demonstrate a willingness to do violence" for us ?
- >
- > Let's try to illustrate what Kev does not see. Someone "Joe" does a crime and
- > gets caught. Tragic, but crime simply cannot be eradicated. At issue is
- > how we respond to this as a society. I would like to beef up law enforcement
- > to help catch Joe; straighten out and support the judicial system so Joe can
- > get a rapid trial; and, should Joe be found guilty of the crime, ensure that
- > Joe is rapidly sentenced and pays a substantial penalty. If the crime was one
- > of violence, then I believe "substantial" means really doing time, not walking
- > away with probation and an admonition that Joe not do this again. A swift and
- > certain jail sentence precludes --- prevents --- Joe from making a living from
- > crime even after having been caught.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- So Joe gets to commit as much armed robbery (or whatever) as he can until
- he is caught ?
-
- You didn't answer the question.
-
- > Kev, on the other hand, wants to use the fact that this crime was committed
- > as further evidence supporting a crackdown on all of us, least we might also
- > do what our hypothetical bad guy "Joe" did. Joe is likely free to continue
- > doing crime, since, in this scenario, the focus is on all citizens, not the
- > one who "demonstrated a willingness to do violence". Sorry, Kev, but I will
- > continue to resist you when promote Draconian measures against honest citizens
- > without first trying to go after those who already show they are willing to
- > do crime.
-
- Wrong, I don't want "Joe" to have the means of commiting the crime. My suggestions
- probably require less police enforcement than yours do - prevention is usually
- cheaper than curing symptoms.
-
- You, still havn't answered the question.
-
- Kev.
-
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